The Official Tier Thread


magic9mushroom: <-- Didn't know that Rayquaza Mega Evolves without needing a Mega Stone. Some of us aren't up to speed with new-gen developments. Jun 11, 2015 14:20:15 GMT -8
magic9mushroom: Now my "What." is directed at GameFreak because jesus christ the powercreep in ORAS legends. Jun 11, 2015 14:39:00 GMT -8
piexplode: Add in that it has impressive bulk, and an ability that reduces its weaknesses (leaving it without even an exploitable 2x weakness for example) and a powerful and versatile moveset, and you start to get the picture Jun 11, 2015 20:03:10 GMT -8
magic9mushroom: Outrage, Draco Meteor, and Moonblast are all powerful, 2x SE and possessed (with STAB, even) by several Ubers. I think you meant "4x" weakness? Primal Groudon looks like it'd be even worse if it could hold an item. Jun 11, 2015 21:13:13 GMT -8
magic9mushroom: But yeah, I was already thinking "ugh powercreep" when I thought that Mega Rayquaza needed a Stone and that Primals were incompatible with Megas. Now I'm just thinking "whyyyyy". Jun 11, 2015 21:15:35 GMT -8
magic9mushroom: I think the way they should go with the tiering is to rename the current "Ubers" "superused" or something and then make Mega Ray and maybe Arceus/the Primals actual Ubers. That'd separate out the dual current meanings of "Ubers". Jun 11, 2015 21:18:25 GMT -8 *
piexplode: Yeah I meant 4x. And some people think on a similar line to you. Check out and Jun 12, 2015 5:36:40 GMT -8
magic9mushroom: I mean, considering that Ubers was originally created to house RBY Mewtwo, the question is really not "does Mega Rayquaza belong in Ubers", but "do all these other things belong in Ubers". Jun 12, 2015 21:54:52 GMT -8
piexplode: indeed. Just sent this to fireburn, the tier leader. Jun 12, 2015 23:10:20 GMT -8
Lutra: RBY Ubers tournament on Smogon Jun 13, 2015 22:58:11 GMT -8
Crystal_: After over 3 years of work I can finally say that Pokemon Pyrite is finished! You can download the final version of the hack here: Jun 21, 2015 13:20:46 GMT -8 *
Crystal_: Why is nobody excited :( Jun 23, 2015 2:30:37 GMT -8
piexplode: YAY :D Jun 23, 2015 6:00:47 GMT -8
kristoph: Hey I'm running the first Violet Version tournament on PP, not sure if peeps here would be interested. $25 prize tho! Jun 24, 2015 17:36:19 GMT -8
Raish: Woo Pyrite is done!!! Going to try it once my schedule calms down probably Jun 24, 2015 21:38:40 GMT -8
Agent Syrup: Good news! My country is out of the dark ages! Jun 26, 2015 18:56:16 GMT -8
Isa: :) I am very happy about that. Jun 27, 2015 0:35:31 GMT -8
piexplode: good news :) Jun 27, 2015 12:59:37 GMT -8
magic9mushroom: ow my head Jun 30, 2015 1:34:50 GMT -8
kristoph: RBYPlus is now implemented on Pokemon Showdown here. Might be a few inaccuracies for now, but it's effectively done. Jun 30, 2015 6:43:45 GMT -8