The RBY Corner

[Crystal_]

I have just created a RBY google site, to explain the metagame, inform abaut tournaments, and RBY in general. I will be working on it in next days.

URL= sites.google.com/site/rbysite/

[WaterWizard]

=)

[Crystal_]

if you guys, find any misspelled word, gramatical error or something like that pls let me know. I'm spanish = P. Thanks.

[Aether Nexus]

Cool. I already see quite a bit of grammatical errors, but I have no time atm to point them all out. Right off the bat, you say "de" rather "the" and you spelled "about" wrong. I'll check out the rest of the site when I get back home.

~ Aether Nexus

[Crystal_]

OK. Thanks.

[t3h Icy]

Some errors I noticed:

1.1:

"Poison is super-effective against Bug, rather than not very effective."

Poison is neutral to Bug in later generations.

"High-CH ratio moves use a 64 in the damage formula instead of 512"

Critical hit formula.

"Sleep lasts from 0 to 5 turns, but a Pokemon is not able to move the turn it wakes up."

0 to 7.

1.3:

"If I have something clear about the RBY metagame is that specialists cannot beat recoveres using its special movepool, because the laters, unlike physicists cannot do enough damage to "go through" the recovering move (barring a super-effective hit in Starmie). "

While this is true for the most part, Pokemon that have a high CH rate and/or can Paralyze can break through the stallers (such as Jolteon).

Otherwise, everything looks good thus far.

[Crystal_]

Thx

I consider Jolti, Zap and Lapras more of the group #2 because their usefulness is based in their job as -mixed- sweepers.

Also, I didnt know it was 0-7 but it sounds creidble: 0-7 => 2^3

[Crystal_]

I am planning to do something like that: sites.google.com/site/rbysite/the-rby-metagame/1-4-rby-analysis/alakazam for the analysis I will make. Do you like it?

(Behind the sprite and stats goes the text.)

[t3h Icy]

Looks like an updated version of Smogon thus far. =P

I would put Speed over Special, but otherwise it looks good.

[Crystal_]

Yeah, I have finaly found out a use for Smogon RBY tiers.

Also, did a small change to ease me stuff.

Move spe and spc needs a lot of work...

[Crystal_]

Finished my first analysis.
Looks nice imo.
sites.google.com/site/rbysite/the-rby-metagame/1-4-rby-analysis/alakazam

[coletrain]

It's good work so far, but I have some comments. They will only be on the format, as I am not an expert on RBY (yet, hopefully ) so I can't really comment on analysis.

First off, I think the site could do with a bit more colour overall. Maybe you could use some RBY sprites in the top and/or left hand sections to make it more pleasing to look at.
With the format of the analysis, I find Smogon's very easy to read (even if the analyses themselves are awful). I think Other Options should have a subheading of its own, and maybe add in a section for relevant damage calculations.

It may just be me, but the whole idea of groups doesn't sit right with me. Especially if you end up including tiers on the site, it will end up possibly being confusing. Especially for newbies. I think some prose text could be use to talk about these different types of Pokemon in general terms (hard, because of their differences) but without using the "Group X" labels.

There are also occasional spelling errors, and some things could be worded better. I can have a more indepth look at that some other time, but I'm not exactly great at wording things either :/

What other content is the site going to have when completed? Tiers, move explanations, a type chart are a few things I can think of which could be added.

Criticisms aside, considering you've done this off your own back and English isn't your first language, it's a great effort. If you want me to help with anything, ask, and keep up the good work

[WaterWizard]

It's nice. Lots of grammatical and syntactical errors, but we can deal with that later. I'd love to edit it if you'd like (I am an English-History major, after all).

As for the the content, it looks good so far. I like how you divide the pokemon into three different groups. I think that's good. However, I think you should not refer to the groups by their numbers, as this is confusing and vague. It's fine to assign each group with a number, but whenever possible refer to the groups as Recoverers, Physicalists, and Specialists.

Keep at it. I think it's good that you're sharing your knowledge!

[Crystal_]

Coletrain and WaterWizard, thanks for your comments.

Maybe you could use some RBY sprites in the top and/or left hand sections to make it more pleasing to look at.

This is not possible in a google site =(

I think Other Options should have a subheading of its own, and maybe add in a section for relevant damage calculations.

Yeah but, in what I was thinking of, was to create a explanation of teh Pokemon more than a explanation of the Moveset. In the Standard Set I explain the Pokemon in general, and in the secondary sets I explain the viability of a "different" way to use it. Anyway I am considering some changes to make it more easy to read like yours.

It may just be me, but the whole idea of groups doesn't sit right with me. Especially if you end up including tiers on the site, it will end up possibly being confusing. Especially for newbies. I think some prose text could be use to talk about these different types of Pokemon in general terms (hard, because of their differences) but without using the "Group X" labels.

Im not planning to introduce tiers thus far, and I think that teh Groups division ease stuff for the understanding of teh metagame, though I will maybe create an introduction for the section to explain it.

There are also occasional spelling errors, and some things could be worded better. I can have a more indepth look at that some other time, but I'm not exactly great at wording things either :/
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It's nice. Lots of grammatical and syntactical errors, but we can deal with that later.

Supposed so...

What other content is the site going to have when completed?

I am thinking in including a move list for each poke (the moves it learns) and maybe a explanation of each move (like Smogon actually), but idk.

I think you should not refer to the groups by their numbers

I only do that in the explanation of the metagame (not in the analysis) cause i think this eases stuff for new people that have just read the groups section.

Criticisms aside, considering you've done this off your own back and English isn't your first language, it's a great effort. If you want me to help with anything, ask, and keep up the good work

Keep at it. I think it's good that you're sharing your knowledge!
I'd love to edit it if you'd like (I am an English-History major, after all).

=D Of couse. Thanks a lot.


Edit: BTW physicists or physicalists?

[t3h Icy]

I just call them Physicals.

[WaterWizard]

You can either call them Physicals or Physicalists (I prefer the latter term since it's actually a noun). Physicists are scientists.

[Crystal_]

... And specialists are experts, how can i call them then...?

EDIT: Done, physicals and specials.

[WaterWizard]

no, don't call them specials haha that is silly and also confusing. "Specialists" is good and appropriate.

[posthuman]

yeah the words work different ways. Physicals and Specialists.

[Crystal_]

...

WaterWizard and coletrain, I can make you as a collaborator of teh RBY site now to edit it when u want, but I need a email

[WaterWizard]

<email>

I'd be happy to edit grammar/phrasing for you! I'll of course not alter the content.

Just PM me with the login info.

[Crystal_]

I think you just have to go to the page (https://sites.google.com/site/rbysite/) and then at the bootom click in "acceder" and introduce your email.

[coletrain]

[e-mail]. Creative e-mail is creative.

[Crystal_]

Ok, done

[Crystal_]

Thanks, you have done a great job!

But pls, WaterWizard, do not change the base structure and the explanation I am doing (like in the rby groups). Also, i dont really know what has happened to Tauros, because I have not written anything there yet. Actually, I think that Coletrain wrote it and tehn you edited or vice versa or something similar. Anyway, I have both your Groups, WW and teh Tauros analysis copied, if you, WaterWizard or coletrain want them.

[WaterWizard]

oh great! yeah cole did the tauros page and i just added an oxford comma I think. I'm sticking to grammatical corrections so no worries. i'll probably not have a chance to look until next weekend as i'm about to go out of town.

[Crystal_]

Exeggutor done. The site is going very well.

[Crystal_]

WW and Cole, are you still interested in rewriting?

[ Home; parts 1&2 of the rby metagame (rules & clauses and groups) ; Tauros ; Alakazam and Important RBY differences have all been edited by WaterWizard yet. ]

[Crystal_]

Let this die if you guys want. I didn't even remember I had this...