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froggy25: too long :) Jan 28, 2015 13:53:25 GMT -8
Crystal_: actually, i said it in the wrong order, my bad. Dragonite uses Wrap, misses; Snorlax uses Hyper Beam. Next turn Snorlax uses automatically Hyper Beam again without recharging Jan 28, 2015 13:54:09 GMT -8
Crystal_: the other way around, e.g. tauros uses hyper beam, dnite misses wrap, only causes the recharging condition to go, but the tauros player can pick any move Jan 28, 2015 14:01:39 GMT -8
Crystal_: yeah, I get it now. long sotry short, wrap and thrash effects occur prior to dmg calculation and thus prior to accuracy tests. so wrap effect occurs even if the move misses, with the wrap status being active until the acc tests are called and fail Jan 28, 2015 14:13:53 GMT -8 *
Crystal_: the wrap effect also includes clearing the target's hbeam status Jan 28, 2015 14:14:46 GMT -8
Crystal_: so in the dnite vs lax scenario, dnite misses whatever, lax uses beam. next turn dnite misses wrap, lax couldn't select a move as it should be recharging this turn but wrap clears the recharge condition, and since heabm was the last move selected by lax-> Jan 28, 2015 14:18:43 GMT -8
Crystal_: ->it uses hyper beam again. And next turn again, lax can't select move because it needs to recharge Jan 28, 2015 14:19:14 GMT -8
Isa: just for clarification but the above works as well if dnite switches in on the hbeam, right? Jan 28, 2015 14:33:53 GMT -8
Raish: I think short version is: The use of wrap clears hyper beam recharge status, even if wrap misses. If wrap misses in a turn after hyper beam has hit, that pokemon will not need to recharge and can select any move for the following turn. Jan 28, 2015 17:39:12 GMT -8
Raish: If a pokemon would experience hyper beam recharge but wrap misses first that turn, the recharging pokemon will instead be forced to use hyper beam again, with a recharge the following turn if it hits. Jan 28, 2015 17:40:53 GMT -8 *
Raish: So if Dragonite switched into Snorlax's hyper beam then missed wrap on the following turn, Snorlax would automatically hyper beam Dragonite again on that 2nd turn. Jan 28, 2015 17:43:50 GMT -8
Crystal_: yes Isa Jan 29, 2015 0:20:06 GMT -8
Crystal_: thrash/petal dance lock the user even if the move misses (and a miss doesn't automatically end the sequence either). Not sure if this was already known Jan 29, 2015 9:47:47 GMT -8 *
subsmoke: hey what are you guys playing rby on these days? i can't even get on netbattle anymore Jan 29, 2015 13:15:03 GMT -8
Lutra: PO and Pokemon Showdown Jan 29, 2015 13:21:49 GMT -8
subsmoke: cool Jan 29, 2015 13:34:16 GMT -8
subsmoke: which one is better for rby? Jan 29, 2015 13:34:29 GMT -8
Raish: A lot of people on 2k10 prefer PO, but there are definitely people that prefer showdown as well. Jan 29, 2015 13:38:11 GMT -8
CrapAtRBY: PO=Quality Showdown=Quantity Jan 29, 2015 15:18:43 GMT -8
piexplode: I'm on both but most of the community tends to hang out in the channel RBY on PO (also the ladder quality is better there).. also due to stuff Crystal_'s found, even though there's still working NBS servers, it's too buggy to battle on any more. Jan 29, 2015 16:11:20 GMT -8