Clash of the titans!

[magic9mushroom]

(So called because of the long battle between the two most lethal pokemon in the tier. Nothing to do with my skill or lack thereof.)


Battle between magic9mushroom and lilithdies started!

Tier: RBY OU
Mode: Singles
Rule: Unrated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Self-KO Clause

magic9mushroom sent out Alakazam!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!
lilithdies: hi

Start of turn 1
lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

lilithdies: test

Start of turn 2
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Exeggutor!

Alakazam used Kinesis!
The foe's Exeggutor's Accuracy fell!

magic9mushroom: That was odd.
lilithdies: hmm?

Start of turn 3
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Exeggutor is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

The foe's Exeggutor is paralyzed! It can't move!

lilithdies: tttt

Start of turn 4
magic9mushroom called Alakazam back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

lilithdies called Exeggutor back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Start of turn 5
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Alakazam!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
The attack of the foe's Chansey missed!

Start of turn 6
Alakazam used Kinesis!
The foe's Chansey's Accuracy fell!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
The attack of the foe's Chansey missed!

Start of turn 7
Alakazam used Kinesis!
The foe's Chansey's Accuracy fell!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
The attack of the foe's Chansey missed!

Start of turn 8
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Exeggutor!

Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Exeggutor lost 12% of its health!

Start of turn 9
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Exeggutor lost 13% of its health!

The foe's Exeggutor is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 10
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Exeggutor lost 13% of its health!
The foe's Exeggutor's Special fell!

The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
Alakazam fell asleep!

Start of turn 11
magic9mushroom called Alakazam back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Exeggutor is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 12
lilithdies called Exeggutor back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Chansey lost 9% of its health!

Start of turn 13
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Alakazam!

The foe's Chansey used Thunder Wave!
But it failed!

Start of turn 14
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Alakazam woke up!

magic9mushroom: trololol?

Start of turn 15
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Alakazam used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 18% of its health!
The foe's Chansey's Special fell!

lilithdies: noplz

Start of turn 16
Alakazam used Kinesis!
The foe's Chansey's Accuracy fell!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
The attack of the foe's Chansey missed!

Start of turn 17
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Exeggutor!

Alakazam used Kinesis!
The attack of Alakazam missed!

Start of turn 18
lilithdies called Exeggutor back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Alakazam used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 17% of its health!

Start of turn 19
Alakazam used Kinesis!
The attack of Alakazam missed!

The foe's Chansey used Softboiled!
The foe's Chansey regained health!

Start of turn 20
Alakazam used Kinesis!
The foe's Chansey's Accuracy fell!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
Alakazam fell asleep!

Start of turn 21
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Alakazam is fast asleep.

Start of turn 22
magic9mushroom called Alakazam back!
magic9mushroom sent out Exeggutor!

The foe's Snorlax used Earthquake!
It's not very effective...
Exeggutor lost 47 HP! (11% of its health)

magic9mushroom:

Start of turn 23
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!

Exeggutor used Psychic!
A critical hit!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 33% of its health!

Start of turn 24
lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
But it failed!

Start of turn 25
magic9mushroom called Exeggutor back!
magic9mushroom sent out Alakazam!

The foe's Chansey used Thunder Wave!
But it failed!

Start of turn 26
Alakazam woke up!

The foe's Chansey used Ice Beam!
Alakazam lost 65 HP! (20% of its health)
Alakazam was frozen solid!

magic9mushroom: ............

Start of turn 27
magic9mushroom called Alakazam back!
magic9mushroom sent out Golem!

The foe's Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The attack of the foe's Chansey missed!

Start of turn 28
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Starmie!

Golem used Rock Slide!
The foe's Starmie lost 30% of its health!

Start of turn 29
magic9mushroom called Golem back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Starmie used Thunder Wave!
Chansey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 30
lilithdies called Starmie back!
lilithdies sent out Exeggutor!

Chansey used Sing!
The attack of Chansey missed!

Start of turn 31
lilithdies called Exeggutor back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Snorlax lost 17% of its health!

Start of turn 32
The foe's Snorlax used Hyper Beam!
Chansey lost 550 HP! (78% of its health)

Chansey used Sing!
The attack of Chansey missed!

Start of turn 33
The foe's Snorlax must recharge!

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

Start of turn 34
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Golem!

The foe's Snorlax used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
Golem lost 146 HP! (40% of its health)

Start of turn 35
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Starmie!

Golem used Earthquake!
The foe's Starmie lost 44% of its health!

Start of turn 36
The foe's Starmie used Recover!
The foe's Starmie regained health!

Golem used Earthquake!
The foe's Starmie lost 44% of its health!

Start of turn 37
magic9mushroom called Golem back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Starmie used Surf!
A critical hit!
Chansey lost 201 HP! (28% of its health)

Start of turn 38
lilithdies called Starmie back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

Start of turn 39
The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
Chansey lost 271 HP! (38% of its health)

Chansey used Sing!
The foe's Snorlax fell asleep!

Start of turn 40
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!

The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

lilithdies: ew

Start of turn 41
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

Start of turn 42
Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
The attack of the foe's Chansey missed!

Start of turn 43
magic9mushroom called Slowbro back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
But it failed!

Start of turn 44
Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

The foe's Chansey used Sing!
But it failed!

Start of turn 45
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Starmie!

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

Start of turn 46
lilithdies called Starmie back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Chansey lost 11% of its health!

Start of turn 47
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 48
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Exeggutor!

The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

lilithdies: why are my eggs so colorful
magic9mushroom:
lilithdies: only two of mine are white, but four of yours are
magic9mushroom: white?

Start of turn 49
Exeggutor used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 15% of its health!

The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Exeggutor lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

lilithdies: oh, do you use the new style battle window?
lilithdies: i keep forgetting that it exists

Start of turn 50
magic9mushroom called Exeggutor back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

magic9mushroom: what do you mean by "white", though?
lilithdies: non-statused

Start of turn 51
The foe's Alakazam used Recover!
The foe's Alakazam regained health!

Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

magic9mushroom: Oh. But those are Poke Balls, not Eggs :/
Hastingslaw is watching the battle.
lilithdies:

Start of turn 52
lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
But it failed!

Start of turn 53
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!

The foe's Snorlax woke up!

Hastingslaw: this guy just quit a game that was really long even though he had a chance to win
Hastingslaw: i ran out of pp on psychic and he prolly thought i had more
lilithdies: mm.. i usually don't forfeit coz hax happen and stuff
lilithdies: sometimes starmie beats chansey, etc
magic9mushroom: Starmie often beats Chansey.

Start of turn 54
magic9mushroom called Slowbro back!
magic9mushroom sent out Exeggutor!

lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!

magic9mushroom: It will just get paralysed in the process.

Start of turn 55
Exeggutor used Stun Spore!
The foe's Chansey is already paralyzed.

The foe's Chansey used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
Exeggutor lost 128 HP! (32% of its health)

Start of turn 56
lilithdies called Chansey back!
lilithdies sent out Starmie!

Exeggutor used Explosion!
A critical hit!
The foe's Starmie lost 30% of its health!
The foe's Starmie fainted!
Exeggutor fainted!
lilithdies: crits!
Hastingslaw: how does starmie beat chansey
magic9mushroom: Psychic.
Hastingslaw: dont see too many people using psychic starmie
lilithdies: poor starmie is at negative 9000 hp now
lilithdies: psychic starmie is awesome, people are silly
Hastingslaw: yeah hax do happen he had a 10 percent chance of winning but he forfeited because he thought i had another psychic pp
lilithdies: i have a really slight preference for surf/tbolt, but i used psychic/tbolt for a while as well
magic9mushroom: If I use Starmie, it always has Psychic.
Hastingslaw: i use blizzard and tbolt
lilithdies: mm
magic9mushroom: It's just funny to see people switch Gar into Mie and get owned.
magic9mushroom: Psychic Starmie also IIRC has the best chance against Zam.
lilithdies: i think it depends as well what role you want it to play, coz for mine i really want a stab attack to deal with tauros late
magic9mushroom: Still not a good chance, but at least you do have a chance.
magic9mushroom sent out Golem!
lilithdies sent out Chansey!
lilithdies: ahhh moar exploders >_<

Start of turn 57
Golem used Explosion!
The foe's Chansey lost 88% of its health!
The foe's Chansey fainted!
Golem fainted!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Start of turn 58
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!

Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 59
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is already paralyzed.

Start of turn 60
The foe's Alakazam used Psychic!
Chansey lost 121 HP! (17% of its health)
Chansey's Special fell!

Chansey used Sing!
But it failed!

Start of turn 61
The foe's Alakazam used Psychic!
Chansey lost 188 HP! (26% of its health)

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

Start of turn 62
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 63
The foe's Alakazam used Psychic!
Chansey lost 200 HP! (28% of its health)

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

Start of turn 64
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!

The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Starmie lost 100 HP! (30% of its health)

Start of turn 65
magic9mushroom called Starmie back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Start of turn 66
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Alakazam lost 20% of its health!

Start of turn 67
The foe's Alakazam used Recover!
The foe's Alakazam regained health!

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is already paralyzed.

Start of turn 68
lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Chansey used Sing!
The foe's Snorlax fell asleep!

magic9mushroom: WIN.
lilithdies: eek

Start of turn 69
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!

The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

Start of turn 70
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!

Starmie used Recover!
Starmie regained health!

Start of turn 71
magic9mushroom called Starmie back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

magic9mushroom: You know why I'm trolling you, right?

Start of turn 72
lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
But it failed!

lilithdies: you're trolling me?
lilithdies:

Start of turn 73
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!

The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

Start of turn 74
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Exeggutor!

Slowbro used Surf!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Exeggutor lost 10% of its health!

Start of turn 75
magic9mushroom called Slowbro back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Exeggutor is paralyzed! It can't move!

Hastingslaw: blizzard is mostly for eggy right
Hastingslaw: on starmie
magic9mushroom: On Starmie? Yes.

Start of turn 76
lilithdies called Exeggutor back!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

lilithdies: it can also freeze unparalyzed zam (and random switch ins) if you feel like taking risks
magic9mushroom: Ice Beam's better for freezing.
lilithdies: although paralyzed starmie against unparalyzed zam is sorta iffy to begin with

Start of turn 77
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 78
The foe's Alakazam used Psychic!
Chansey lost 137 HP! (19% of its health)

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is already paralyzed.

Start of turn 79
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 80
The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

magic9mushroom: You know what I'm waiting for you to do, don't you?
lilithdies: ?

Start of turn 81
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

magic9mushroom: It's not hard to work out.

Start of turn 82
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is already paralyzed.

Start of turn 83
The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Alakazam lost 19% of its health!

Start of turn 84
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Alakazam lost 20% of its health!

Start of turn 85
The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is already paralyzed.

Start of turn 86
The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is already paralyzed.

Start of turn 87
The foe's Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
Chansey is already paralyzed.

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Alakazam is already paralyzed.

Start of turn 88
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Alakazam lost 18% of its health!

Start of turn 89
The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!

Start of turn 90
The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 91
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!

The foe's Alakazam used Recover!
The foe's Alakazam regained health!
lilithdies: oh stalling, how you warm my heart :3

Start of turn 92
Slowbro used Surf!
The foe's Alakazam lost 25% of its health!

The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

Start of turn 93
lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Exeggutor!

Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

Start of turn 94
magic9mushroom called Slowbro back!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!

The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
Starmie fell asleep!

Start of turn 95
magic9mushroom called Starmie back!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!

lilithdies called Exeggutor back!
lilithdies sent out Tauros!

Start of turn 96
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 94 HP! (23% of its health)

Slowbro used Withdraw!
Slowbro's Defense rose!

lilithdies: lool
lilithdies: hax plz!

Start of turn 97
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 67 HP! (17% of its health)
Slowbro is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Start of turn 98
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
A critical hit!
Slowbro lost 175 HP! (44% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Start of turn 99
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 58 HP! (14% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

Start of turn 100
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 67 HP! (17% of its health)

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Start of turn 101
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 67 HP! (17% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

magic9mushroom: Tankbro FTW!
lilithdies: lul

Start of turn 102
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 66 HP! (16% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

lilithdies: uhoh
lilithdies: !

Start of turn 103
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 68 HP! (17% of its health)

Slowbro used Withdraw!
Slowbro's Defense rose!

Start of turn 104
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 51 HP! (12% of its health)

Slowbro used Rest!
lilithdies: moar hax plz
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Start of turn 105
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 44 HP! (11% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Hastingslaw: why dont u zam his rest

Start of turn 106
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 44 HP! (11% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

magic9mushroom: Because his Zam is paralysed.
lilithdies: paralyzed zam isn't going to help me much against slowbro

Start of turn 107
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
A critical hit!
Slowbro lost 173 HP! (44% of its health)

Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

lilithdies: yeshhhh moar crits

Start of turn 108
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 50 HP! (12% of its health)

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

lilithdies: moarrrr

Start of turn 109
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 50 HP! (12% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Hastingslaw: slowbro still has the speed drop from para after rest right
magic9mushroom: Yes.
magic9mushroom: Which means his parazam can't win.

Start of turn 110
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
A critical hit!
Slowbro lost 187 HP! (47% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

Start of turn 111
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 51 HP! (12% of its health)

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Start of turn 112
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
A critical hit!
Slowbro lost 196 HP! (49% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

lilithdies: moar!!!

Start of turn 113
The foe's Tauros used Hyper Beam!
Slowbro lost 87 HP! (22% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

Start of turn 114
The foe's Tauros must recharge!

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Start of turn 115
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
A critical hit!
Slowbro lost 187 HP! (47% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Start of turn 116
The foe's Tauros used Hyper Beam!
Slowbro lost 78 HP! (19% of its health)
Hastingslaw: if you know he is resting and you put zam in you need 3 turns of sleep and 4 turns of no fp

Slowbro woke up!

magic9mushroom: Zam can't beat Slowbro.
magic9mushroom: Toss is a 4HKO, which means Bro rest-loops and waits for FP.
lilithdies: it requires an FP twave and another FP on the turn after slowbro wakes up
lilithdies: and no FP from zam
lilithdies: which is pretty iffy

Start of turn 117
The foe's Tauros must recharge!

Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

Start of turn 118
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 50 HP! (12% of its health)

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Start of turn 119
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 51 HP! (12% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Start of turn 120
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 45 HP! (11% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

Start of turn 121
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 51 HP! (12% of its health)

Slowbro used Surf!
The foe's Tauros lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Tauros fainted!
lilithdies sent out Exeggutor!

Start of turn 122
The foe's Exeggutor used Hyper Beam!
Slowbro lost 54 HP! (13% of its health)

Slowbro used Withdraw!
Slowbro's Defense rose!

Start of turn 123
The foe's Exeggutor must recharge!

Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

Start of turn 124
The foe's Exeggutor used Explosion!
Slowbro lost 97 HP! (24% of its health)
The foe's Exeggutor fainted!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!
lilithdies: no fp hax plz
magic9mushroom: And so we come at last to the moment of truth, in which the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed and the anomaly revealed as both beginning and end.

Start of turn 125
The foe's Alakazam used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 95 HP! (24% of its health)
Slowbro fainted!
lilithdies: lul
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!
lilithdies: hmm... wut now
lilithdies: @@
lilithdies: this game... is omg
lilithdies:

Start of turn 126
magic9mushroom called Starmie back!
magic9mushroom sent out Alakazam!

lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

lilithdies: wut

Start of turn 127
magic9mushroom called Alakazam back!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!

The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

Start of turn 128
Starmie woke up!

The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

lilithdies: T_T

Start of turn 129
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!

Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 14% of its health!
The foe's Alakazam's Special fell!

Start of turn 130
Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 21% of its health!
The foe's Alakazam's Special fell!

The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

magic9mushroom: YES.
lilithdies: snorlax has totally been asleep longer too!
lilithdies: ewwwwwwwwwww
magic9mushroom: PSYCHIC STARMIE FTW.

Start of turn 131
Starmie used Psychic!
A critical hit!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 25% of its health!
The foe's Alakazam's Special fell!

The foe's Alakazam used Recover!
The foe's Alakazam regained health!

lilithdies: omg

Start of turn 132
lilithdies called Alakazam back!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Starmie used Psychic!
The foe's Snorlax lost 24% of its health!

Start of turn 133
lilithdies called Snorlax back!
lilithdies sent out Alakazam!

Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 13% of its health!
The foe's Alakazam's Special fell!

lilithdies: @@

Start of turn 134
Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 19% of its health!

The foe's Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!

lilithdies: .. T_T

Start of turn 135
Starmie used Ice Beam!
The foe's Alakazam lost 20% of its health!
The foe's Alakazam fainted!
lilithdies sent out Snorlax!

Start of turn 136
Starmie used Psychic!
The foe's Snorlax lost 26% of its health!

The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

Start of turn 137
Starmie used Psychic!
The foe's Snorlax lost 28% of its health!
The foe's Snorlax's Special fell!

The foe's Snorlax is fast asleep.

Start of turn 138
Starmie used Thunderbolt!
The foe's Snorlax lost 2% of its health!
The foe's Snorlax fainted!
magic9mushroom won the battle!
lilithdies: gg




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Props to:

Lilithdies, for outplaying me
Tankbro, for walling Tauros
To use Lilith's own words, my "catnapping stathacking Starmie". Particularly funny since Psychic Starmie had been discussed earlier on in the game before my Mie came out. "Proof by pudding", as they say.

[lilith]

Start of turn 32
The foe's Snorlax used Hyper Beam!
Chansey lost 550 HP! (78% of its health)

why would i do that (among other things)?

interesting questions!

[magic9mushroom]

Jan 16, 2013 4:26:23 GMT -8 lilith said:

Start of turn 32
The foe's Snorlax used Hyper Beam!
Chansey lost 550 HP! (78% of its health)

why would i do that (among other things)?

interesting questions!

Hoping for a crit? Predicted a switch to Zam?

[redemption]

MUSHROOM! Also, this battle looks iffy. And stally, oh god it is stally.

[Isa]

Consider Reflect over Withdraw, since going beyond ~630 Def is usually not very interesting. =p

[magic9mushroom]

Jan 16, 2013 8:07:51 GMT -8 Isa said:

Consider Reflect over Withdraw, since going beyond ~630 Def is usually not very interesting. =p

Withdraw's there because Withdraw Slowbro stalls out standard Tobybro (or Reflectbro) as well as Dre's Tanklax, due to Withdraw's 64 PP.

[t3h Icy]

Slowbro dittos are so rare, preparing for them is a bit silly. Even then, I'd ditch Withdraw and instead use something like Disable, Flash, Psywave, Toxic, etc. There are a lot of better moves than Withdraw.

loltanklax

[magic9mushroom]

Jan 16, 2013 17:37:06 GMT -8 t3h Icy said:

loltanklax

I'm very sure that Withdraw Slowbro does indeed defeat Tanklax. Snorlax getting two crits in a row happens so rarely that it'll almost certainly run out of Body Slam first.

And of the moves you listed, none have more PP than Thunder Wave.

[t3h Icy]

He does, but a lot of things do, lol. Tanklax is trash.

Also, why do you want to outlast PP in Slowbro dittos (which again, should be incredibly rare), when there are better options? Flash will reduce his chance to hit to extreme lows. Disable has a chance at stopping Rest to hammer him away, Surf to use less PP, Withdraw/whatever so the good PP has to be used up, etc. Psywave has the most realistic chance to KO during setup Slowbro dittos due to its randomness in damage. Toxic forces the opponent to use Rest more frequently so you can drain out how much HP they can heal. Another way to think of it is Rest being X amount of extra HP and Toxic takes out a ton in stall wars.

Or just go standard, don't let the opponent setup, and win more consistently, lol.

[magic9mushroom]

Jan 16, 2013 20:51:32 GMT -8 t3h Icy said:

He does, but a lot of things do, lol. Tanklax is trash.

I don't find it "trash".

Also, why do you want to outlast PP in Slowbro dittos (which again, should be incredibly rare), when there are better options?

Faster options, maybe.

Flash will reduce his chance to hit to extreme lows.

Flash is decent, but it will only stall an opposing Slowbro - you still won't be able to kill it until all of both your PP have been exhausted and you kill it with Struggle.

Disable has a chance at stopping Rest to hammer him away,

Ice Beam is honestly a better idea for stopping Rest. Disable has only a 13.7% chance to disable Rest, and even if it does, it won't last long ("long" being relative in a Slowbro ditto - Surf is a 7HKO). Ice Beam has a 10% chance to disable Slowbro forever.

Surf to use less PP, Withdraw/whatever so the good PP has to be used up, etc.

The only relevant bit here is if you force a failed Rest.

Psywave has the most realistic chance to KO during setup Slowbro dittos due to its randomness in damage.

Yes, Psywave can 3HKO. The chance of doing so (per 3 uses of Psywave) is less than half Ice Beam's freeze chance per 1 use of Ice Beam. Thus, Ice Beam is superior.

Toxic forces the opponent to use Rest more frequently so you can drain out how much HP they can heal. Another way to think of it is Rest being X amount of extra HP and Toxic takes out a ton in stall wars.

I'll have to run the numbers on that, because I know for a fact that an Amnesia Slowbro doesn't have enough Surfs to run another Amnesia Slowbro out of Rest. Thus, I'm not sure whether Toxic is enough to win the stall war or whether it helps you lose it - Rest is a PP saver and Toxic's PP is low.


...Funnily enough, you've convinced me that Ice Beam is better than Withdraw in a Slowbro ditto (at least in a direct head-to-head - Withdraw still has a higher chance of defeating Tobybro), despite not mentioning Ice Beam once.

[t3h Icy]

Tanklax is not actually trash, just grossly overrated. I had 0 problems handling him after a year hiatus, lol.

Options may include Chansey stalling/slowly defeating it, exploding with anything and finishing with a follow-up. Sacrificing and then following up in other ways (say, Tauros Hyper Beam, die, then KO). Any Waters or Grasses all work fine, particularly Starmie. Gengar is decent with high CH chances and Tbolt, on top with Hypnosis and Explosion. Really though, just don't let him setup in the first place and attack quickly. If you're worried about Thunder Wave, chain switch to a Ground or Paralyzed Pokemon, then switch to what you want to attack with after to take Surf/Amnesia. It's very rare for Slowbro to use Surf on turn 1 it's out, so it's usually safe.

Flash doesn't necessarily have to be used for stalling. The main thing is that it becomes much safer to switch-out. More than likely though, the opponent may get frustrated and not want to waste his precious PP and switch-out. The idea is that you force Slowbro to need to setup again later, or deal with lowered accuracy, which are both advantageous. Killing it is also possible, but a less likely scenario.

Relying on Freezes is not a good idea since you have to consider any anywhere before that point with Slowbro, and since he's best as a late-game Pokemon, it's not a good idea to hope for Freezes. However, should Slowbro have Ice Beam, he's a better Slowbro anyway, lol (in most cases; Thunder Wave is still his best in my opinion).

The purpose of Disable is that regardless of what you hit, it's helpful, just that Rest is the best. Hitting either Amnesia or his other move means he has to waste his PP for his good moves. Hitting Surf protects your Pokemon from damage, meaning less healing on your own part. Hitting Rest gives an opportunity to KO. And sure, Surf takes several hits to KO, but be smart about it and Disable after doing some damage. Using Disable when Slowbro is at 100% for intention of KOing him after is silly. What you want to do is figure out your opponent's limit where they will Rest.

Psywave is not particularly good, but it is the best for the purpose of KOing. Again, can't rely on Freezes necessarily. Psywave also has more PP than Ice Beam and since the damage is random, it may make the opponent be risky with when to heal, or otherwise, you can force faster healing. The randomness and accuracy hold it back though.

Toxic has the same amount of PP as Rest, so just use Toxic every time Slowbro has no status condition. Given 16 uses, an average of 13.6 will hit, so for any remainders, just spam Surf. Though I'd suggest using Surf early if possible for maximum damage before the opposing Slowbro sets up. Toxic also gives you a sort of timer to work with when the opponent uses Rest, so it's easier to safely switch out. Should you get hit by Surf by a hard read, the opposing Slowbro should have little HP left, which can then be finished off with another Pokemon.

Ice Beam is a good option, but Flash is probably the best choice in Slowbro dittos. But REALLY. Slowbro dittos shouldn't happen. Switch out, kill it, move on. If you're stalling with Slowbro against another (which itself is a rare occurrence), just figure out your opponent's timings on Rest, jump out, and hammer away.

And I have never ever had a Slowbro ditto in a scenario where it was disadvantageous for both players to switch out.

BUT REALLY. Slowbro dittos? Y'all need to get on the offensive in RBY. If you guys are playing defensively for the majority of the game, you're going to get scrapped by the majority of good players. Garrin Red who used to play was a beast defensive player and even he couldn't pull it off well enough to effectively use. Play offensively, learn how to read your opponent, win RBY.

[magic9mushroom]

I find it interesting that you characterise Slowbro as "defensive". It can't switch out without losing its boosts, so bringing out Slowbro and setting it up is an attempt to win, or at least deal heavy damage to an opponent's team before it dies. That makes it offensive, in my view, and very much so.

Then again, the only truly defensive Pokemon in RBY OU are Chansey, Cloyster, Gengar, and Victreebel, so eh. Exeggutor's pretty defensive, too.

[t3h Icy]

Slowbro is not necessary defensive, stalling is.