Project RBY 251
Feb 3, 2013 12:06:19 GMT -8
Post by Crystal_ on Feb 3, 2013 12:06:19 GMT -8
RBY 251 has gone live! You can play it ALREADY!
GET STARTED
As you can imagine, this basically consists on all 251 GSC Pokemon in a RBY environment: RBY mechanics, moves, no items, no spc split... The metagame is meant to be the answer to the question: How would RBY look like if Pokemon up to #251 had existed in the first generation?
1. Download the mod here
2. Open Pokemon Online and go to the team builder
3. Click Mods -> install new mod
4. Search the RBY 251 mod and open it (it's a .zip named RBY 251). It will likely be in your downloads folder.
5. Make a team and save it
6. Now you are ready to go battling! Go online and in advanced connection enter Mount Silver - 83.41.189.64:5080, or search for the server Mount Silver
7. Find someone to play and have fun!
Important info/notes
NFE Pokemon except Scyther have been removed to make room for the GSC Pokemon. It was not possible to keep them because only Pokemon numbered between 0 and 151 could be given a rby special stat. For this reason, GSC Pokemon have been merged with RBY pokemon. They have been sorted alphabetically between numbers 1 and 138.
This means that the RBY 251 mod is not compatible with any other gen because Pokemon would have different index numbers. If you want to have RBY 251 and non RBY 251 teams loaded at the same time, it's advised that you open Pokemon Online twice, and use one for RBY 251 and the other for everything else. In fact, only the RBY 251 metagame can be played in the Mount Silver server.
Due to a bug caused by legal combinations and compatibility, pre evo moves such as Beedrill's String Shot and Arcanine's Flamethrower have been merged with level up moves and they all show up as 'Level' in the team builder.
In the RBY 251 mod, RBY (and GSC) Pokemon will show the correct special stat in the teambuilder instead of the special attack stat of the future gens.
If you think you may have found a bug don't hesitate to contact me to let me know. You can send me a PM here, in Smogon, in RBY2K10, or in Mount Silver.
Info on how TM/HM moves have been chosen
First off, TM/HM moves available in RBY 251 are only the TMs/HMs available in RBY.
Out of these 55 (50 TM + 5 HM), there are different cases (if a move satisfies 2 or more of the following critera, whichever criterion is first takes precedence):
Moves learned by every Pokemon in RBY with the exceptions being only Caterpie, Kakuna, Magicarp etc. -> Every GSC Pokemon except Unown and Wobbuffet (and Smeargle who learns everything via Sketch aka level) learns them in RBY 251. Examples: Mimic, Rest.
Moves that are also TMs/HMs in GSC -> If a Pokemon learns it in GSC, the Pokemon learns it in RBY 251. Examples: Fire Blast, Fly.
Moves that can be learned by tutor in GSC -> If a Pokemon learns it in GSC, the Pokemon learns it in RBY 251. Examples: Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower.
Moves that can be learned by TM/tutor in ADV -> If a Pokemon learns it in ADV, the Pokemon learns it in RBY 251. Examples: Counter, Body Slam, Sowrds Dance.
(if a Pokemon can learn a move via breeding but can NOT learn it via TM/tutor, it does NOT learn it in RBY 251). Example: Mantine and Rock Slide (I can't remember more atm).
There is a very small number of justified exceptions to these rules. Examples: Hitmontop and Rock Slide (the other hitmons don't learn it in RBY), Espeon/Umbreon and Cut (the other eons don't learn it in RBY). The main exception is Reflect, which has a much wider compatibility in RBY than in ADV, where it is a tutor move.
Reflect and the moves that don't belong to any of the previous criteria have their compatibility chosen according to RBY trends. For example, only Pokemon that can stand in two legs learn Submission, and, like in RBY as well, Psychic and Psywave are learned by the same Pokemon, and the same for Water Gun and BubbleBeam. In addition, Mega Drain <-> Giga Drain, and Skull Bash <-> Headbutt, because of the very similar spread in GSC.
Hopefully this has helped everybody interested in RBY 251 understand how it's exactly being made!
For more information check the spreadsheet, which includes the special stat and the TM/HM moves of each Pokemon. For even more info, read the comments in the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet has been set to "view only" since everything is already done.
Thanks to everyone who showed interetest, and especially Dr.Fuji and Isa for helping out!
Screen capture of the team builder:
GET STARTED
As you can imagine, this basically consists on all 251 GSC Pokemon in a RBY environment: RBY mechanics, moves, no items, no spc split... The metagame is meant to be the answer to the question: How would RBY look like if Pokemon up to #251 had existed in the first generation?
1. Download the mod here
2. Open Pokemon Online and go to the team builder
3. Click Mods -> install new mod
4. Search the RBY 251 mod and open it (it's a .zip named RBY 251). It will likely be in your downloads folder.
5. Make a team and save it
6. Now you are ready to go battling! Go online and in advanced connection enter Mount Silver - 83.41.189.64:5080, or search for the server Mount Silver
7. Find someone to play and have fun!
Important info/notes
NFE Pokemon except Scyther have been removed to make room for the GSC Pokemon. It was not possible to keep them because only Pokemon numbered between 0 and 151 could be given a rby special stat. For this reason, GSC Pokemon have been merged with RBY pokemon. They have been sorted alphabetically between numbers 1 and 138.
This means that the RBY 251 mod is not compatible with any other gen because Pokemon would have different index numbers. If you want to have RBY 251 and non RBY 251 teams loaded at the same time, it's advised that you open Pokemon Online twice, and use one for RBY 251 and the other for everything else. In fact, only the RBY 251 metagame can be played in the Mount Silver server.
Due to a bug caused by legal combinations and compatibility, pre evo moves such as Beedrill's String Shot and Arcanine's Flamethrower have been merged with level up moves and they all show up as 'Level' in the team builder.
In the RBY 251 mod, RBY (and GSC) Pokemon will show the correct special stat in the teambuilder instead of the special attack stat of the future gens.
If you think you may have found a bug don't hesitate to contact me to let me know. You can send me a PM here, in Smogon, in RBY2K10, or in Mount Silver.
Info on how TM/HM moves have been chosen
First off, TM/HM moves available in RBY 251 are only the TMs/HMs available in RBY.
Out of these 55 (50 TM + 5 HM), there are different cases (if a move satisfies 2 or more of the following critera, whichever criterion is first takes precedence):
Moves learned by every Pokemon in RBY with the exceptions being only Caterpie, Kakuna, Magicarp etc. -> Every GSC Pokemon except Unown and Wobbuffet (and Smeargle who learns everything via Sketch aka level) learns them in RBY 251. Examples: Mimic, Rest.
Moves that are also TMs/HMs in GSC -> If a Pokemon learns it in GSC, the Pokemon learns it in RBY 251. Examples: Fire Blast, Fly.
Moves that can be learned by tutor in GSC -> If a Pokemon learns it in GSC, the Pokemon learns it in RBY 251. Examples: Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Flamethrower.
Moves that can be learned by TM/tutor in ADV -> If a Pokemon learns it in ADV, the Pokemon learns it in RBY 251. Examples: Counter, Body Slam, Sowrds Dance.
(if a Pokemon can learn a move via breeding but can NOT learn it via TM/tutor, it does NOT learn it in RBY 251). Example: Mantine and Rock Slide (I can't remember more atm).
There is a very small number of justified exceptions to these rules. Examples: Hitmontop and Rock Slide (the other hitmons don't learn it in RBY), Espeon/Umbreon and Cut (the other eons don't learn it in RBY). The main exception is Reflect, which has a much wider compatibility in RBY than in ADV, where it is a tutor move.
Reflect and the moves that don't belong to any of the previous criteria have their compatibility chosen according to RBY trends. For example, only Pokemon that can stand in two legs learn Submission, and, like in RBY as well, Psychic and Psywave are learned by the same Pokemon, and the same for Water Gun and BubbleBeam. In addition, Mega Drain <-> Giga Drain, and Skull Bash <-> Headbutt, because of the very similar spread in GSC.
Hopefully this has helped everybody interested in RBY 251 understand how it's exactly being made!
For more information check the spreadsheet, which includes the special stat and the TM/HM moves of each Pokemon. For even more info, read the comments in the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet has been set to "view only" since everything is already done.
Thanks to everyone who showed interetest, and especially Dr.Fuji and Isa for helping out!
Screen capture of the team builder:
