The dangers of Reflect Chansey

[magic9mushroom]

Battle between Raish [RBY No Wrap] and magic9mushroom started!

Tier: RBY OU
Mode: Singles
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Variation: +18, -14

Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Alakazam!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: hey
magic9mushroom: Hi.

Start of turn 1
magic9mushroom called Starmie back!
magic9mushroom sent out Exeggutor!

The foe's Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
Exeggutor is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 2
The foe's Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
Exeggutor lost 54 HP! (13% of its health)
Exeggutor's Special fell!

Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
The foe's Alakazam fell asleep!

Start of turn 3
Raish [RBY No Wrap] called Alakazam back!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Exeggutor!

magic9mushroom called Exeggutor back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

Start of turn 4
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Exeggutor!

The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
But it failed!

Start of turn 5
The foe's Exeggutor used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
Exeggutor lost 56 HP! (14% of its health)

Exeggutor is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 6
The foe's Exeggutor used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
Exeggutor lost 55 HP! (13% of its health)

Exeggutor used Stun Spore!
The attack of Exeggutor missed!

Start of turn 7
The foe's Exeggutor used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
Exeggutor lost 55 HP! (13% of its health)
Exeggutor's Special fell!

Exeggutor used Stun Spore!
The foe's Exeggutor is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 8
Exeggutor used Explosion!
A critical hit!
The foe's Exeggutor lost 100% of its health!
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: lol
The foe's Exeggutor fainted!
Exeggutor fainted!
magic9mushroom: lol
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: darn
magic9mushroom: don't know why I always go for stun spore before exploding
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: haha
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: cuz it doesn't kill normally
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Chansey!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!

Start of turn 9
magic9mushroom called Starmie back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Chansey used Thunder Wave!
Chansey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 10
Raish [RBY No Wrap] called Chansey back!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Snorlax!

Chansey used Ice Beam!
The foe's Snorlax lost 18% of its health!

Start of turn 11
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Rhydon!

The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
It's not very effective...
Rhydon lost 47 HP! (11% of its health)

Start of turn 12
Rhydon used Earthquake!
The foe's Snorlax lost 35% of its health!

The foe's Snorlax used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
Rhydon lost 141 HP! (34% of its health)

Start of turn 13
Raish [RBY No Wrap] called Snorlax back!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Tauros!

Rhydon used Earthquake!
The foe's Tauros lost 40% of its health!

Raish [RBY No Wrap]: I'm kinda screwed this game
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: bad start for me

Start of turn 14
magic9mushroom called Rhydon back!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!

The foe's Tauros used Blizzard!
A critical hit!
It's not very effective...
Starmie lost 75 HP! (23% of its health)
Starmie was frozen solid!

Raish [RBY No Wrap]: or that helps
magic9mushroom: well fuck

Start of turn 15
magic9mushroom called Starmie back!
magic9mushroom sent out Snorlax!

Raish [RBY No Wrap] called Tauros back!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Chansey!

Start of turn 16
magic9mushroom called Snorlax back!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!

The foe's Chansey used Reflect!
Reflect raised Raish [RBY No Wrap]'s team defense!

Start of turn 17
The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss!
Chansey lost 100 HP! (14% of its health)

Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 18
magic9mushroom called Chansey back!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!

The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

Start of turn 19
Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 20
Slowbro used Withdraw!
Slowbro's Defense rose!

The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 21
Raish [RBY No Wrap] called Chansey back!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Snorlax!

Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

Raish [RBY No Wrap]: damn I always forget the build haha

Start of turn 22
The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 72 HP! (18% of its health)
Slowbro is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Slowbro used Psychic!
A critical hit!
The foe's Snorlax lost 46% of its health!
The foe's Snorlax fainted!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Rhydon!

Start of turn 23
The foe's Rhydon used Earthquake!
Slowbro lost 83 HP! (21% of its health)

Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Rhydon lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Rhydon fainted!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Tauros!
magic9mushroom: what % is mine on
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: 35
magic9mushroom: I'm in old battlewindow
magic9mushroom: k thanks

Start of turn 24
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 66 HP! (16% of its health)

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

magic9mushroom: yay
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: yeah you got this

Start of turn 25
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 61 HP! (15% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Raish [RBY No Wrap]: 1st time I've been bro swept in forever

Start of turn 26
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
A critical hit!
Slowbro lost 171 HP! (43% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

Start of turn 27
The foe's Tauros used Body Slam!
Slowbro lost 68 HP! (17% of its health)

Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Tauros lost 59% of its health!
The foe's Tauros fainted!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Chansey!
magic9mushroom: well not "swept" chansey'll kill bro
magic9mushroom: but yeah

Start of turn 28
The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Raish [RBY No Wrap]: no it won't
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: not my build
magic9mushroom: ...or not
magic9mushroom: slowbro was on 93 hp
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: you had guaranteed rest there
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: yeah
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: but I'm para
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: and never got to para you because of my fp
magic9mushroom: I'm still speed-dropped
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: oh yeah
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: nvm
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: lol
magic9mushroom: I was paraed earlier
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: oops
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: damn
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: yeah you're right
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: but yeah
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: swept
magic9mushroom: so yeah if toss had connected you would have killed bro

Start of turn 29
The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Start of turn 30
The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

Slowbro woke up!

Start of turn 31
Raish [RBY No Wrap] called Chansey back!
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Alakazam!

Slowbro used Rest!
Slowbro went to sleep and became healthy!

Start of turn 32
The foe's Alakazam is fast asleep.

Slowbro is fast asleep.

Raish [RBY No Wrap]: and snorlax plus rhydon takes out chansey
magic9mushroom: I hope so, anyway
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: but yeah can't win this with chansey now
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: so gotta go for super low chance zam
magic9mushroom: eh, it's psychic bro, you've got a chance
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: I've gotta remember you're not the regular bro build
magic9mushroom: Well mine works for what I use it for, so why change it?
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: oh no I'm saying yours is great
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: I played wrong against it
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: thinking I had time to waste using stoss
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: because I could vs regular bro

Start of turn 33
The foe's Alakazam is fast asleep.

Slowbro woke up!

magic9mushroom: yeah withdraw means that you have no time to waste
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: yeah
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: but I'll try to remember for the future
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: ok well let's finish it

Start of turn 34
The foe's Alakazam is fast asleep.

Slowbro used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 32% of its health!

Start of turn 35
The foe's Alakazam is fast asleep.

Slowbro used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 33% of its health!

Start of turn 36
The foe's Alakazam woke up!

Slowbro used Psychic!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Alakazam lost 33% of its health!
The foe's Alakazam fainted!
magic9mushroom: phew
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: darn just needed a low roll haha
Raish [RBY No Wrap] sent out Chansey!

Start of turn 37
The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It can't move!

Slowbro used Amnesia!
Slowbro's Special sharply rose!

magic9mushroom: forgot I was only at +4 and not +6 lol

Start of turn 38
The foe's Chansey used Thunder Wave!
Slowbro is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 47% of its health!
Raish [RBY No Wrap]: lol

Start of turn 39
The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 46% of its health!
The foe's Chansey's Special fell!

Start of turn 40
The foe's Chansey used Softboiled!
The foe's Chansey regained health!

Slowbro is paralyzed! It can't move!

Raish [RBY No Wrap]: gg

Start of turn 41
The foe's Chansey used Softboiled!
The foe's Chansey regained health!

Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 67% of its health!

Start of turn 42
The foe's Chansey used Softboiled!
The foe's Chansey regained health!

Slowbro is paralyzed! It can't move!

Start of turn 43
The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 72% of its health!

Start of turn 44
The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss!
Slowbro lost 100 HP! (25% of its health)

Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 10% of its health!
The foe's Chansey fainted!
magic9mushroom won the battle!




AND LET THAT BE A LESSON TO YOU.

(Not that Reflect Chansey's bad... but it is major Slowbro bait, and users would be wise to remember this.)

[Raish]

It was really the double FP vs. Slowbro that did me in there more than anything else. With a double FP, TBolt Chansey wouldn't have done much better. If 1 or both of those SToss had hit, rather than you getting up both Amnesia and Withdraw for free, I would have had the chance to capitalize on some rest turns with some other mon or boom with Lax if necessary, which while not guaranteed kills, could have made things go very differently. Reflect SToss Chansey trades Chansey's traditional strengths and weaknesses for an entirely different set. I think of it as a totally different mon from standard Chansey. It's actually a lot like a Chansey-Starmie hybrid, although not in all the ways you'd hope (Ex: Low Speed/Crit Rate and walled by other Chanseys, barring paralyzed pp battle). I would like to point out that that's the 1st time out of at least 7 battles vs your Slowbro that it managed to sweep me (although my Tauros haxed like crazy to beat it once, but that's what Tauros does). Reflect Chansey is still less Slowbro bait than Zam or post-sleep Jynx, and those see far greater usage.

[magic9mushroom]

Zam can 3HKO Slowbro with a triple crit Psychic, or use Kinesis, and Slowbro doesn't like switching into a special-fall Psychic. Jynx can freeze, as can Ice Beam from Chansey. Tbolt Chansey is little threat to Slowbro (freeze is more likely than CH) but would do a lot more on the switch-in (almost half its health) leaving Slowbro immediately vulnerable.

That said, I wasn't trying to mock you. I just thought it would be a useful lesson to others on how an unthreatening wall can turn an otherwise-favourable game into an outright rout.