I think, therefore I can.

[magic9mushroom]

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Pokemaniak joined.
magic9mushroom joined.
Format:
[Gen 1] OU (beta)
Rated battle
Sleep Clause Mod: Limit one foe put to sleep
Species Clause: Limit one of each Pokemon
OHKO Clause: OHKO moves are banned
Moody Clause: Moody is banned
Evasion Moves Clause: Evasion moves are banned
HP Percentage Mod: HP is reported as percentages
Battle between Pokemaniak and magic9mushroom started!
Go! Jynx!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!
Turn 1
The foe's Starmie used Thunder Wave!
Jynx is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
Jynx used Lovely Kiss!
The foe's Starmie fell asleep!
Turn 2
magic9mushroom withdrew Starmie!
magic9mushroom sent out Snorlax!
Jynx used Blizzard!
The foe's Snorlax lost 35.0% of its health!
Turn 3
The foe's Snorlax used Hyper Beam!
Jynx lost 100% of its health!
Jynx fainted!
Go! Snorlax!
Turn 4
magic9mushroom withdrew Snorlax!
magic9mushroom sent out Exeggutor!
Snorlax used Body Slam!
A critical hit! The foe's Exeggutor lost 62.8% of its health!
Turn 5
Snorlax, come back!
Go! Exeggutor!
The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
Exeggutor fell asleep!
Turn 6
magic9mushroom withdrew Exeggutor!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!
Exeggutor is fast asleep.
Turn 7
Exeggutor, come back!
Go! Snorlax!
The foe's Slowbro used Amnesia!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Defense sharply rose!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Attack sharply rose!
Turn 8
The foe's Slowbro used Withdraw!
The foe's Slowbro's Defense rose!
Snorlax used Body Slam!
The foe's Slowbro lost 16.3% of its health!
Turn 9
The foe's Slowbro used Withdraw!
The foe's Slowbro's Defense rose!
Snorlax used Body Slam!
The foe's Slowbro lost 12.7% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
Turn 10
Snorlax, come back!
Go! Chansey!
The foe's Slowbro used Withdraw!
The foe's Slowbro's Defense rose!
Turn 11
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 22.4% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro used Amnesia!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Defense sharply rose!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Attack sharply rose!
Turn 12
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 14.8% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro used Amnesia!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Defense sharply rose!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Attack sharply rose!
Turn 13
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 12.2% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro used Rest!
The foe's Slowbro fell asleep!
The foe's Slowbro slept and became healthy!
Turn 14
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 11.7% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro is fast asleep.
Turn 15
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 12.0% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro is fast asleep.
The foe's Slowbro woke up!
Turn 16
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Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
Chansey lost 46.2% of its health!
Turn 17
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 11.7% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
The foe's Slowbro's attack missed!
Turn 18
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 12.7% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
Chansey lost 48.9% of its health!
Turn 19
Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
A critical hit! Chansey lost 23.8% of its health!
Turn 20
Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
Chansey lost 48.4% of its health!
Turn 21
Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
Chansey lost 50.9% of its health!
Chansey's Special Defense fell!
Chansey's Special Attack fell!
Turn 22
Chansey, come back!
Go! Exeggutor!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 23
Exeggutor is fast asleep.
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Exeggutor lost 39.4% of its health!
Turn 24
Exeggutor is fast asleep.
Exeggutor woke up!
The foe's Slowbro used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Exeggutor lost 36.9% of its health!
Turn 25
Exeggutor used Selfdestruct!
The foe's Slowbro lost 19.6% of its health!
Exeggutor fainted!
Go! Chansey!
Turn 26
Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 27
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 11.7% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro used Rest!
The foe's Slowbro fell asleep!
The foe's Slowbro slept and became healthy!
Turn 28
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 11.5% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro is fast asleep.
Turn 29
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's super effective! The foe's Slowbro lost 11.5% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro is fast asleep.
The foe's Slowbro woke up!
Turn 30
Chansey used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 31
magic9mushroom withdrew Slowbro!
magic9mushroom sent out Exeggutor!
Chansey used Thunderbolt!
It's not very effective... The foe's Exeggutor lost 8.1% of its health!
Turn 32
The foe's Exeggutor used Sleep Powder!
Chansey fell asleep!
Chansey is fast asleep.
Turn 33
Chansey, come back!
Go! Snorlax!
The foe's Exeggutor used Psychic!
Snorlax lost 32.3% of its health!
Turn 34
The foe's Exeggutor used Stun Spore!
Snorlax is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
Snorlax used Body Slam!
The foe's Exeggutor lost 29.0% of its health!
The foe's Exeggutor fainted!
magic9mushroom sent out Snorlax!
Turn 35
The foe's Snorlax used Body Slam!
Snorlax lost 27.5% of its health!
Snorlax used Counter!
The foe's Snorlax lost 55.1% of its health!
Turn 36
Snorlax, come back!
Go! Tauros!
The foe's Snorlax used Hyper Beam!
Tauros lost 55.5% of its health!
Turn 37
Tauros used Body Slam!
A critical hit! The foe's Snorlax lost 9.9% of its health!
The foe's Snorlax fainted!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!
Turn 38
Tauros, come back!
Go! Chansey!
The foe's Chansey used Thunder Wave!
But it failed!
Turn 39
magic9mushroom withdrew Chansey!
magic9mushroom sent out Rhydon!
Chansey, come back!
Go! Snorlax!
Turn 40
The foe's Rhydon used Earthquake!
Snorlax lost 35.0% of its health!
Snorlax used Counter!
But it failed!
Turn 41
magic9mushroom: lol
The foe's Rhydon used Body Slam!
A critical hit! Snorlax lost 5.2% of its health!
Snorlax fainted!
Go! Tauros!
Turn 42
Tauros used Blizzard!
It's super effective! The foe's Rhydon lost 59.3% of its health!
The foe's Rhydon used Earthquake!
Tauros lost 43.6% of its health!
Turn 43
Tauros used Earthquake!
It's super effective! The foe's Rhydon lost 35.1% of its health!
The foe's Rhydon used Body Slam!
Tauros lost 0.8% of its health!
Tauros fainted!
Go! Alakazam!
Turn 44
Alakazam used Psychic!
A critical hit! The foe's Rhydon lost 5.6% of its health!
The foe's Rhydon fainted!
magic9mushroom sent out Slowbro!
Turn 45
Alakazam used Psychic!
A critical hit! It's not very effective... The foe's Slowbro lost 40.2% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Defense fell!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Attack fell!
The foe's Slowbro used Amnesia!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Defense sharply rose!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Attack sharply rose!
Turn 46
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective... The foe's Slowbro lost 13.2% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Defense fell!
The foe's Slowbro's Special Attack fell!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 47
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective... The foe's Slowbro lost 18.3% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 48
DanielBryan'sBeard: ouch
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective... The foe's Slowbro lost 5.3% of its health!
The foe's Slowbro fainted!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!
Turn 49
Alakazam used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 16.6% of its health!
The foe's Chansey used Ice Beam!
Alakazam lost 19.8% of its health!
Turn 50
Alakazam, come back!
Go! Chansey!
The foe's Chansey used Ice Beam!
Chansey lost 10.0% of its health!
Turn 51
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 11.5% of its health!
Chansey is fast asleep.
Turn 52
Chansey is fast asleep.
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 10.8% of its health!
Turn 53
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 11.4% of its health!
Chansey is fast asleep.
Turn 54
Chansey is fast asleep.
Chansey woke up!
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
A critical hit! Chansey lost 21.8% of its health!
Turn 55
The foe's Chansey used Ice Beam!
Chansey lost 10.5% of its health!
Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!
Turn 56
Chansey used Softboiled!
Chansey regained health!
The foe's Chansey used Ice Beam!
Chansey lost 10.8% of its health!
Turn 57
The foe's Chansey used Ice Beam!
Chansey lost 10.8% of its health!
Chansey was frozen solid!
Chansey is frozen solid!
Turn 58
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 10.0% of its health!
Chansey is frozen solid!
Turn 59
magic9mushroom withdrew Chansey!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!
Chansey is frozen solid!
Turn 60
The foe's Starmie is fast asleep.
The foe's Starmie woke up!
Chansey is frozen solid!
Turn 61
magic9mushroom withdrew Starmie!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!
Chansey is frozen solid!
Turn 62
Chansey is frozen solid!
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 10.1% of its health!
Turn 63
Chansey is frozen solid!
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 10.8% of its health!
Turn 64
Chansey is frozen solid!
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
A critical hit! Chansey lost 22.8% of its health!
Turn 65
Chansey is frozen solid!
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 9.7% of its health!
Turn 66
Chansey is frozen solid!
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 10.4% of its health!
Turn 67
The foe's Chansey used Thunderbolt!
Chansey lost 4.6% of its health!
Chansey fainted!
Go! Alakazam!
Turn 68
Alakazam used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 18.2% of its health!
The foe's Chansey's Special Defense fell!
The foe's Chansey's Special Attack fell!
The foe's Chansey used Thunder Wave!
Alakazam is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
Turn 69
The foe's Chansey used Softboiled!
The foe's Chansey regained health!
Alakazam used Psychic!
The foe's Chansey lost 26.2% of its health!
Turn 70
magic9mushroom withdrew Chansey!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 20.7% of its health!
Turn 71
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
A critical hit! It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 26.2% of its health!
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!
Turn 72
Alakazam used Psychic!
A critical hit! It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 37.8% of its health!
The foe's Starmie's Special Defense fell!
The foe's Starmie's Special Attack fell!
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 9.3% of its health!
Turn 73
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 32.2% of its health!
The foe's Starmie is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 74
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
The foe's Starmie used Recover!
The foe's Starmie regained health!
Turn 75
magic9mushroom withdrew Starmie!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 76
magic9mushroom withdrew Chansey!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 77
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 18.9% of its health!
The foe's Starmie's Special Defense fell!
The foe's Starmie's Special Attack fell!
The foe's Starmie is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 78
Alakazam used Psychic!
It's not very effective... The foe's Starmie lost 30.0% of its health!
The foe's Starmie used Recover!
The foe's Starmie regained health!
Turn 79
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
The foe's Starmie is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 80
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
The foe's Starmie used Recover!
The foe's Starmie regained health!
Turn 81
magic9mushroom withdrew Starmie!
magic9mushroom sent out Chansey!
Alakazam used Recover!
Alakazam regained health!
Turn 82
magic9mushroom withdrew Chansey!
magic9mushroom sent out Starmie!
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is already paralyzed.
Turn 83
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is already paralyzed.
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 12.5% of its health!
Turn 84
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
The foe's Starmie is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 85
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is already paralyzed.
The foe's Starmie is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 86
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is already paralyzed.
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 14.4% of its health!
Alakazam's Special Defense fell!
Alakazam's Special Attack fell!
Turn 87
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is already paralyzed.
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 21.1% of its health!
Turn 88
Alakazam used Recover!
Alakazam regained health!
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 21.1% of its health!
Alakazam's Special Defense fell!
Alakazam's Special Attack fell!
Turn 89
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is already paralyzed.
The foe's Starmie is paralyzed! It can't move!
Turn 90
Alakazam used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Starmie is already paralyzed.
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 26.5% of its health!
Turn 91
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
A critical hit! It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 25.6% of its health!
Turn 92
Alakazam is paralyzed! It can't move!
The foe's Starmie used Psychic!
It's not very effective... Alakazam lost 23.3% of its health!
Alakazam fainted!
magic9mushroom won the battle!
Ladder updating...
Pokemaniak's rating: 1700 ? 1679
(-21 for losing)
magic9mushroom's rating: 1753 ? 1772
(+19 for winning)
Pokemaniak left.
magic9mushroom: Goddamn, dat ending.
DanielBryan'sBeard: i know lol
magic9mushroom: That's one of the reasons I put Psychic on Starmie, actually.
magic9mushroom: So that it can fight Zam and Chansey with Special falls.
DanielBryan'sBeard: i beat him in a similar way last battle lol


Gotta love STAB Psychic. It can hit, it can crit, it can spec-fall, it can do both, and of course it can always 255.

[jorgen]

Surf will out-PP a Chansey's Softboiled, though, and allow you to actually beat Alakazam. I think Surf is actually better for this set.

[magic9mushroom]

Sept 12, 2013 4:34:10 GMT -8 jorgen said:

Surf will out-PP a Chansey's Softboiled, though,

Chansey uses about 9 Softboileds recovering from 24 Surfs, with crits taken into account.

and allow you to actually beat Alakazam.

Surf's a 4HKO, so you need at least 2 full-paras or a crit + full-para to kill Zam (and hope all-but-vanishes once you take a Special fall). Have you run the numbers on whether that's more likely than winning a Psychic war and then finishing with Blizzard?

I think Surf is actually better for this set.

For which set?

[magic9mushroom]

Aaaand I just realised you were talking about Slowbro, not Starmie. Fail.

Yes, Surf hits Zam far harder and can out-PP Chansey, but without the chance to spec-fall Starmie's a hard wall (and in a last-Poke situation, Zam can be stalled out of Recover anyway, whereas Thunderbolt Starmie can't - Zam is also easier to land paralysis on with another 'mon prior to bringing in Slowbro). Surf Slowbro without Thunder Wave is also a free switch-in for the admittedly rare Victreebel.