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Post by balthios on Jan 9, 2015 12:19:11 GMT -8
1. Tauros 2. Snorlax 3. Exeggutor 4. Chansey 5. Alakazam 6. Starmie 7. Slowbro 8. Lapras 9. Jynx 10. Zapdos 11. Golem 12. Rhydon 13. Gengar 14. Cloyster 15. Dragonite 16. Victreebel 17. Jolteon 18. Persian 19. Articuno 20. Hypno 21. Kingler 22. Kangaskhan 23. Clefable 24. Raichu 25. Dugtrio 26. Dodrio 27. Venusaur 28. Sandslash 29. Poliwrath 30. Moltres 31. Gyarados 32. Flareon 33. Aerodactyl 34. Tangela 35. Raticate 36. Golduck 37. Kabutops 38. Tentacruel 39. Charizard 40. Nidoking 41. Ninetales 42. Arcanine 43. Lickitung 44. Electabuzz 45. Electrode 46. Machamp 47. Mr. Mime 48. Dewgong 49. Hitmonlee 50. Pinsir 51. Wigglytuff 52. Omastar 53. Parasect 54. Vaporeon 55. Muk 56. Weezing 57. Nidoqueen 58. Magneton 59. Farfetch'd 60. Fearow 61. Pidgeot 62. Porygon 63. Rapidash 64. Venomoth 65. Blastoise 66. Arbok 67. Vileplume 68. Primeape 69. Magmar 70. Marowak 71. Butterfree 72. Beedrill 73. Seadra 74. Onix 75. Scyther 76. Seaking 77. Hitmonchan 78. Ditto 79. Golbat
That was pretty fun. I had to guess on some of the bottom stuff, but it looks pretty good for the most part.
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Post by Raish on Jan 9, 2015 16:23:54 GMT -8
Whilst I agre with your kingler>articuno.. I don't see others doing so lol I've got Kingler far above Articuno as well. Because I play non-Wrap, I actually have it possibly edging into the top 15, but I feel like it's my personal preference that has it over non-Clamp Cloyster's STAB Blizzard, Explosion, and ability to wall Snorlax and switch into Tauros, forcing it out.
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Post by jorgen on Jan 10, 2015 9:27:57 GMT -8
ditto > golbat because Ditto can at least make, say, a paralyzed Swords Dancer regret it. Golbat just does nothing. There was a thread on "worst fully-evolved Pokemon in OU" a while back that came to the Golbat = worst verdict.
Beedrill is probably a little high, but I dunno. TwinNeedle can bring a lot of otherwise good checks to SDers to their knees.
Lickitung gets SD, Wrap, and STAB Hyper Beam. Plus EQ to bust Gengar's nut. It's pretty nice.
Aerodactyl is a nice Lax check that has insane offensive potential if it can crit its Sky Attacks. I agree though, I have it too high here.
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Post by magic9mushroom on Jan 13, 2015 1:50:03 GMT -8
Whilst I agre with your kingler>articuno.. I don't see others doing so lol lol ditto>golbat your beedrill is insanely high why are lickitung and aerodactyl so high? In terms of what they can do in OU? Yeah, Ditto is better than Golbat. Because an OU that starts out asleep for one turn and only has 75% HP and 5 PP for all its moves is probably still going to do better than something with Golbat's abortion of a movepool. I mean, come on, its best moves are non-STAB Double-Edge and Hyper Beam, with coverage consisting solely of a non-STAB Mega Drain that fails to 2HKO the Rocks. And then it's weak to Ice, Psychic, Electric AND Rock, while only resisting Ground and Grass. I mean, I can even think of a pico-niche for Ditto; if you're up against a Toxiced Withdraw Slowbro with no Rest PP remaining but full health and maxed boosts, your second-last Pokemon just died to Psychic, and they have an Earthquake/Surf/Selfdestruct Snorlax at 80% health plus a frozen Chansey, Ditto is the best possible Pokemon to be left with. Of course, in some hypothetical tier where Golbat is actually decent, Ditto would still be garbage because then it would be copying Golbat-tier stuff. So in a tiering sense it does end up being strictly the worst. BTW jorgen 2xSE STAB Twineedle is only barely stronger than neutral non-STAB Hyper Beam. It doesn't OHKO Starmie or Gengar or even guarantee the OHKO on Zam at +2, while Starmie can OHKO with Psychic and Zam always will. I think Kabutops at least is better, since Normal and Ice resists and Psychic neutrality are worth more than Grass resist and Ground/Electric neutrality.
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