RBY Little Cup

[Crystal_]

Would anyone be interested in playing it?
I have never play it, but it could be nice.

For people that don't know what's Little Cup (LC):
Only NFEs that doesn't have preevolutions.
Every Pokemon at level 5
Dragon Rage and Sonicboom are banned
And the rest standard rules/clauses

[t3h Icy]

Me, Zilch and WaterWizard did this a lot awhile back. The metagame revolves around Diglett, Abra, Voltorb, Exeggcute, and Waters.

Fun though.

[Zilch]

Yeah, I remember our Little Cup experiments. Diglett was an absolute wrecking ball thanks to its 19 speed (tied with Voltorb for fastest). Meowth, Poliwag, Gastly, Abra, Pikachu, and Exeggcute typically rounded up the rest, though I tried to fool around with stuff like Koffing and Rhyhorn.

It's good for a little diversion, but I wouldn't delve too deep. Maybe if we raise the levels from 5 to something higher, it might become a bit more viable.

[WaterWizard]

playing at level 5 creates a lot of speed ties. still, twas a lot of fun.

[Crystal_]

But do you still have the LC team?
I mean, if I make one I could battle with you, just for fun?

[Crystal_]

Something loling/interesting:
Meowth Slash vs Abra:
Non-CH: Between 11-13 damage (50%-59%)
CH: Between 16-19 damage (73%-86%)
Because of the Damage Formula CHs aren't loling in LC. The difference that is in Standard (f.ex. 40%->CH78%) in LC is much higher based in percentaged, though the damage difference in HP is the same.

[Underboss]

So critical hits matter more then?

[t3h Icy]

May 2, 2010 11:35:52 GMT -8 Crystal_ said:

Something loling/interesting:
Meowth Slash vs Abra:
Non-CH: Between 11-13 damage (50%-59%)
CH: Between 16-19 damage (73%-86%)
Because of the Damage Formula CHs aren't loling in LC. The difference that is in Standard (f.ex. 40%->CH78%) in LC is much higher based in percentaged, though the damage difference in HP is the same.

Umm, I don't know how you got that, but it does 27-23 with Criticals...

[Crystal_]

Are you sure, I used the NB damage calculator. Anyway it is obvious if you realised that CHs at level 100 the CH aren't still exactly 2x the damage.

[t3h Icy]

Yes but the differences in damage is rarely even 1 at Level 100s. I'm certain you calculated the CH damage incorrectly. Test it out.

[Crystal_]

I think the damage calulation is something like 5 + everithing else.
So if you do 10 damage the CH damage is 15, and if you do 100 the CH is 195.
EDIT: I'm sure as I tested it

[t3h Icy]

Just tested it with Crystal, and he's right.

The damage formula I've always used is:

(((((Level*2/5)+2)*Attack or Special*Base/50/Defense or Special)+2)*multipliers*(Random(217-255))/255

So....that's interesting...

[t3h Icy]

Giant bump of bumpiness.

What do you guys think of trying to develop competition around LC? A lot of it is pure offense, trading hits, etc, but many Pokemon are viable.

An important question though is would it be played at Level 5 like tradition Little Cup or Level 10 where many Speed ties and stats begin to spread out a little more?

[Crystal_]

Whatever. RBY2K10 signature competition would be nice. Also say that the more level we use the more defensive becomes the metagame (not much though).

[WaterWizard]

A Little Cup tournament would be fun. Might even be a good tool for converting later-gen-players to RBY.

[Crystal_]

Could be the next mini if you guys want.

[LolitaCute]

I would play in a tourney if you had one despite me never playing it before.