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Post by t3h Icy on Dec 26, 2010 22:55:13 GMT -8
January's tournament will be BL since we didn't do it this month. However, do we allow Not-Fully-Evolved Pokemon such as Haunter and Kadabra, or not?
Brief discussions are cool too.
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Post by Crystal_ on Dec 27, 2010 7:54:41 GMT -8
Pfff
They are usually allowed (see Smogon DP UU/NU/BL), though I don't like how Kadabra affects the meta I voted yes. I don't care much about this though, but it is not "selecting" the pokes we want what should be done. Do whatever you want anyway.
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Post by WaterWizard on Dec 27, 2010 14:03:29 GMT -8
Haunter and Graveler are the main concerns, but they don't really get played anyway so I doubt it will matter.
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Post by Zilch on Dec 27, 2010 17:09:33 GMT -8
I hate Haunter with a passion in BL, so no. Call me biased if you must, but whenever someone uses him, he overcentralizes the game like crazy.
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Post by Nerd on Dec 27, 2010 17:24:38 GMT -8
Graveler: Yes, for sure (not like he's used anyways)
Haunter: Completely walls tons of Pokemon, which reduces variety - however he loses 1 on 1 to a lot of stuff. Still, I'd have to vote 'no' for haunter because it would probably be more fun without him.
Kadabra: IDK if Kadabra is overpowered, I guess I'll abstain from this one.
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Post by Zilch on Dec 27, 2010 17:41:32 GMT -8
Kadabra isn't that bad, but you can make a case that there isn't enough stuff that can resist him. You have Hypno and the rarely used Mr. Mime, but not much else. Just play him like a mini-Alakazam and he does very well, though I'd say Reflect is a must due to the larger physical presence in BL. I haven't done a lot of testing with him since I've always been a Hypno user, mind you.
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Post by KiNGskruffi on Dec 27, 2010 18:16:16 GMT -8
If it's more physical based, I do wanna see Haunter unbanned cause I think it can kinda force the players to use more specialists. ^^
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Post by subsmoke on Dec 28, 2010 1:27:46 GMT -8
Haunter and Graveler are the main concerns, but they don't really get played anyway so I doubt it will matter. Why Graveler? It aint really that good against much in BL except for maybe Haunter or a paralyzed Raichu. Besides Graveler's UU so I think it would be allowed anyways. I dunno about Kadabra and Haunter so I'll leave that to you guys. |
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Post by KiNGskruffi on Dec 28, 2010 5:17:19 GMT -8
Btw, Smogon has both Haunter and Kadabra listed as BL.
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Post by t3h Icy on Dec 28, 2010 11:23:01 GMT -8
We do too.
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Post by Crystal_ on Dec 29, 2010 2:45:30 GMT -8
Kadabra usefulness comes when it sticks in the field with a reflect up, and becomes capable of scoring stuff like 2/3 on 1 trades bar TW+ST Kadabra/Hypno
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Post by t3h Icy on Dec 29, 2010 23:00:44 GMT -8
Haunter seems borderline broken in BL, all because of its typing.
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Post by KiNGskruffi on Dec 30, 2010 4:35:32 GMT -8
How about allowing them and if they are broken, we can ban them for the upcoming BL tournaments?
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Post by t3h Icy on Dec 30, 2010 10:37:58 GMT -8
Okay. =P
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