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[WaterWizard]

I think this is the best pokemon in OU! Exeggutor is so useful it's insane. Walls psychics and grounds, induces sleep and paralysis, explodes... And he has two STAB attacks at 348 special and decent attack as well, while being extremely bulky. Leech Seed is also very useful for forcing switches. Eggy is one of the few pokemon in OU who can use Rest effectively, too, due to his bulk and typing.

I'm curious to know what you all prefer on your Exeggutor. Most of the older members here strictly use the standard moveset, but I've seen a few of the new members switch things up, and of course I swap between my own Eggy sets frequently.

Standard is Mega Drain, Psychic, Sleep Powder, and Explosion.

The most common substitute is Stun Spore, in place of MD.

Other options:

Rest
Double Edge
Leech Seed
Reflect
Mimic
Hyper Beam

I have used every single one of these moves on my Exeggutor, all with pretty decent success. Picking Eggy's moveset is one of my favorite parts of OU as it helps define the nature of the team.

Some of my coolest sets:

Leech Seed, Psychic, Rest, Double Edge
Reflect, Explosion, Psychic, Sleep Powder
Mimic, Psychic, Reflect, Mega Drain

Note that the Mimic set allows a 50% chance to get Recover from Alakazam and some Starmie sets.

Exeggutor definitely rivals Articuno as my favorite pokemon in standard; that counts for something!

WW

[coletrain]

Did you draw this? It's an awesome drawing
Eggy is definitely top 5 if not top 3 IMO
I tend to use Sleep Powder/Psychic/Double-Edge/Explosion. Sometimes I use Stun Spore or Mega Drain, over DE. Once I ran it over sleep, but found it lackluster if i got my Gar put to sleep, as i then had no sleeper :/ Never thought to use Mimic for Recover, because it has so many options anyway! Off the top of my head, you could try DE + Reflect on a set to beat normal DE Eggy, don't know how well that would work.

[Crystal_]

IMO:

I do not consider Egg more useful than neither of teh recoverers. He cannot do much to reflect alakazam (besides exploding on a switch, use the explosion into a paralyzad zam to put in on a ohko range of w/e or being really lucky with psychic) or to chansey besides exploding. And for Star needs it to be para and Egg should have MD. Imo it is teh fifth after Tau, also.

D-E: Pretty useless agaist reflect zam unless you catch a para one in a switch-in (will do about 39%), has a enormous recoil against Chan and does not outdamage anything else but Jynx (its main use, and egg [which is actually a 20% damage w/ recoil vs a 14% one with a chance of spc fall).

Reflect: Like reflect in Cloyster for instance (or Star / Lax to some extent). You are walled by specialists (recoverers) not by physicists.

Mimic: You can get Recover, yep, but then your opponent start switching between Zam/Chan/Star/Egg/Jynx to stall you, and if you do that you lose the recovery move. Tho you can use one of these switches to explode on Zam/Chan.

Rest: It works, as you could stall out with it a recoverer in a 1vs1 matchup late- game (even if it does not attack allowing you to use rest and stall for turns) due to the 48 PP of SS. However, it is not easy to do that in a 2vs2 recoverer matchup or when Tauros remains alive; but is a useful option imo.

LS: Its main use is to force a switch to explode on Zam or Chansey or be anoying late-game when your opponent only has one recoverer though here i consider more useful rest (unless there is Tauros maybe). Too bad 16 PP for a move like it is not much.

Hyper Beam: Well, with it you are hoping for a CH in a Zam switch-in instead of exploding; and if you dont score it (+- 88/89% times), you will still do around 58% and Alakazam wont damage you much in one turn. It can also be useful to OHKO a less than 41-44 (more or less)% HP Chansey.

IMO:

Exeggutor 1
SP
SS / MD
Psychic
Explosion

Exeggutor 2 (non-sleeper)
SS / MD
Psychic
SS / MD / HB / LS
Explosion / Rest (with SS and MD preferably, without LS)

Exeggutor 3 (resting)
SS
SP / MD / Expl? (just to scout it with rest, you explode in a recoverer catching your opponent)
Psychic
Rest

[t3h Icy]

You didn't draw that. =)

I like Sleep Powder, Psychic, Mega Drain, Explosion. Guess I'm boring.

[WaterWizard]

Yeah I definitely can't draw! Even after a semester of Introduction to Drawing!

[posthuman]

Sept 25, 2010 7:44:09 GMT -8 t3h Icy said:

You didn't draw that. =)

I like Sleep Powder, Psychic, Mega Drain, Explosion. Guess I'm boring.

Yep you are. I've tried being creative with Eggy, but being boring usually works better.

[t3h Icy]

[posthuman]

do you have parkinson's?

[coletrain]

needs moar colour

[Zilch]

My god! A Lucicolo with three heads!

[Crystal_]

Sept 25, 2010, 17:44, t3h Icy wrote:
You didn't draw that. =)

I like Sleep Powder, Psychic, Mega Drain, Explosion. Guess I'm boring.

Yep you are. I've tried being creative with Eggy, but being boring usually works better.

Icy, your creative Eggy picture is not actually better than the WaterWizard's "boring" one.

[Tristan]

[pocket]

Stupid Question - How do you guys use Mega Drain on Eggy? I recently tried out Mega Drain, but I ended up not using it at all. It seems like a very situational move, only superior over Psychic when sapping health from Slowbro, Starmie, Lapras, and Cloyster. Yes, there are Golems and Rhydons, but they tend to simply switch out to their Special Sponge, which Mega Drain does shit. I understand that Mega Drain is used to buy some time for the right moment to Explode. However, it does so little, that usually the recovery isn't worth it imo.

I really did not get much mileage out of Mega Drain - I feel like Double-Edge is much more practical, since it can actually check Chansey or a paralyzed Zam that switches into Eggy often. It also dents Jynx, shortening its play / hax time, and probably win 1 vs 1 match-up against other Eggies.

I am also interested in other move options that Water Wizard listed on the OP. Is Leech Seed any good against Chansey and Alakazam match-ups? Basically I am trying to fit an Eggy that can pressure Zam and Chansey that comes to wall it, which forces Eggy to switch or explode.

[Consumptus]

Mega Drain allows Eggy the ability to beat Starmie which is noteworthy.

Leech Seed works decently against Chansey, but unless you get a Physical Special fall, Ice Beam will outpace it for the KO I believe.
Vs Alakazam, it's only useful if it doesn't have Seismic Toss... which really just leads to the same matchup.

[Isa]

DEdge against Jynx is asking for Counter trouble. Mega Drain on a Jynx switch-in is actually pretty useful, however. It's also really good if you get a spec drop on Zam.
Moreso, MD is good to actually threaten Golem/Rhydons. If you drop it, they can stay in and deal hefty damage with BSlam/Rock Slide.

Also, it's more accurate than Stun Spore...>_< I always miss with that move.

[garrinred]

Jun 26, 2011 4:05:47 GMT -8 Isa said:

DEdge against Jynx is asking for Counter trouble. Mega Drain on a Jynx switch-in is actually pretty useful, however. It's also really good if you get a spec drop on Zam.
Moreso, MD is good to actually threaten Golem/Rhydons. If you drop it, they can stay in and deal hefty damage with BSlam/Rock Slide.

Also, it's more accurate than Stun Spore...>_< I always miss with that move.

You probably shouldn't be fighting Zam with Psychic anyway though. The Zam will win unless you're running Leech Seed(and maybe even if you are), and if you're running Leech Seed you're not running both MD and Psychic anyway.

MD does 16.2-18.9% to Jynx, which is fairly nice, but you trade that for the knowledge that something is about to eat a Jynx Blizzard. I guess that isn't a bad trade sometimes, but I personally wouldn't do it on a regular basis. It begs for a crit/freeze even if you do have Starmie(though not if you have Lapras/Cloyster). DE on the Jynx switch-in does double that, though without the healing, though you still risk counter if you switch out, and Blizzard anyway. Eggy just doesn't seem good agaisnt Jynx...

I've found that Golem/Rhydon won't stay in on Eggy period, MD or no MD. This might be because the very threat of MD causes them to switch out. There's also the fact that an Eggy Psychic has a >50% chance of 2hkoing Golem or Rhydon. That isn't guaranteed like MD, and it doesn't absorb huge amounts of health, but it's neat nonetheless.

Sorry if it seems like I'm disagreeing with you on everything. ;^_^

[Isa]

I'm not advocating fighting Zam with Eggy, but should you hit a specdrop on the switch-in, you should continue the fight with MD, especially if he's paralyzed (seems to happen a lot, so not an uncommon scenario at all). You can stall his Psychics more than decently, especially if you get lucky and hit a CH MD.

Almost all Jynxes are leads. Zam usually paralyses Jynx and Gengar should put her to sleep. Facing that with Jynx, it's an easy switch to Chansey to soak a Blizzard which gets followed by TBolt/Softboiled. Counter in that situation would do over 300 damage, I think, apart from hurting Eggy as well. The reward on a misprediction against Golem etc. is also non-existing.

MD > DEdge on bulky waters, of which there are many. Lot of people choose to stay in on that even when facing MD, without MD it's an even easier choice.

[t3h Icy]

Mega Drain is nice for Golems trying to catch Explosion.

[pocket]

Thanks for the responses, guys.

Isa, according to your example, Jynx would be either paralyzed or asleep when it switches into Exeggutor. This makes Jynx that much more vulnerable to D-Edge (It can't try to stall out the sleep timer). The threat of Counter is an issue, but I think it is worth the risk.

Also, I just watched this good RBY match against Jackal (my former RBY tutor!) vs husk. Mega Drain saw some action in that battle. Basically Exeggutor's healed the same percentage of HP that Mega Drain dealt on Chansey, which is pretty nifty (8%).

Here's the link:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Etn57Nuns

[Isa]

It certainly isn't, IMO. Most Jynx will be at 100% (and paralyzed). Counter a DEdge and you've almost bought Egg down in one hit, and Egg is so much better than Jynx it's not funny. I'd take that deal any time.

Letting Eggy stay in against Chansey is too risky unless you threaten to boom. I wouldn't have used MDrain there, but oh well.

Cool video btw, although a very odd match.

[jorgen]

Yeah, it's mostly for healing. It also makes Starmie/Lapras/Golem and their ilk more wary of switching in, though it doesn't really straight-up "beat" the first two, and isn't really needed for beating the third.

It may not look like much up front, but an extra 4-8% here and there can go a long way in keeping Egg around. And of course, you get a pretty hefty HP bonus for catching stuff that's weak to it. The opposite is true for DE recoil, however nice it is for beating down on Jynx/other Eggs.

[hipmonlee]

Counter jynx is not an issue for DE eggy. Blizzard 2hkos anyway, and counter wont freeze.

The main purpose of D-E is to hit other Eggys. It's my next favourite move for Eggy after Stun Spore, but basically that means I almost never find use for it.

It's pretty rare that the opposing Starmie will be paralysed before your Exeggutor, and yeah, megadrain is nice for the rocks, but stun spore offers so much more. Paralysing golem is pretty awesome anyway. Starmie and Lapras are generally going to be much more comfortable switching into megadrain than stun spore.

[t3h Icy]

Counter doesn't miss though and a Jynx switch-in on Double-Edge can make switching out tricky, though Gengar and Chansey can work.

Also, the HP healed from Mega Drain over the course of most matches can keep you out of death range of quite a few things. And if you get a timely Critical Hit or get a ncie hit on Starmie/Golem/Lapras, you essentially get a half extra Pokemon.

Stun Spore is great, but when paired with Sleep Powder, your chance of hitting both drops to 56.25%. It depends on how many Thunder Wavers you use elsewhere on your team though.

With Mega Drain, focus more on the healing, than the type-effectiveness. Even Mega Draining Tauros can heal nearly 40 HP, which is a pretty nice boost. It's definitely nice for the Waters and Grounds/Rocks.

And, Mega Drain can combo with Psychic's Special falls.

[Crystal_]

Stun > D-E > MDrain

Stun is better than drain for anything that is not Golem/Rhydon, which is irrelevant since they are switching out. Double-edge isn't really much better for eggys than psychic though. It's for Jynx.

[Nerd]

hyper beam

[pocket]

The bad thing about Hyper Beam is that you can't use it unless Chansey or Alakazam is in KO range, which could be hard to do thanks to Softboiled and Recover keeping them from going under 65% health. With Double-Edge, however, Eggy can check Zam switch-in at around 75% health. Chansey switch-ins needs to be around 58%, which is less common, but a well-timed paralysis can help finish Chansey.

Even if it fails, at least it keeps Chansey busy healing itself rather than spreading paralysis or damage. Of course it depends on the team, but D-Edge also helps Eggy from getting paralyzed, due to it hitting paralyzed Zam and Chansey hard on the switch, forcing them to Recover or even switch out. That is why I don't think HB works so well.

And icy, I think that's the problem. I don't know when to use Mega Drain to heal or Psychic for the damage. I guess I can Mega Drain if I expect a switch to something that would force Eggy out, but then I am not really applying any offensive pressure and losing momentum instead.

[brookman]

My current egg set is double-edge, rest, psychic, megadrain and I use him as a late game sweeper. .. . of course, there haven't been too many amazing players on lately so maybe I live in an rby fantasy land where I can get away with anything while icy and ww are away??

[LucasBM]

I was wondering if Leech Seed would be helpful against Snorlax. When I have to go Eggy vs Snorlax, Stun Spore seems the way to go (if Lax isn't paralyzed yet), and then I Psychic like mad.

But, as Lax has a high HP and a low chance for a crit, coupled with Eggy's higher CH-ratio and Psychic's Special falls, I suppose leech-seed would give Eggy the advantage. Even more if you manage to paralyze Snorlax beforehand (which isn't so difficult, as he likes to switch-in on Chansey)

[lilith]

Jan 19, 2013 13:32:28 GMT -8 LucasBM said:

I was wondering if Leech Seed would be helpful against Snorlax. When I have to go Eggy vs Snorlax, Stun Spore seems the way to go (if Lax isn't paralyzed yet), and then I Psychic like mad.

But, as Lax has a high HP and a low chance for a crit, coupled with Eggy's higher CH-ratio and Psychic's Special falls, I suppose leech-seed would give Eggy the advantage. Even more if you manage to paralyze Snorlax beforehand (which isn't so difficult, as he likes to switch-in on Chansey)

i've found leech seed super effective! in encouraging snorlax and chansey to gtfo, but the miss chance is no fun and the grass immunity is no fun either. i'd somewhat vaguely imagine it as a version of substitute that costs no HP but only works on 2 out of 4 on your opponent's team, and is a lame version of mega drain on the other 4. substitute coz it probably gives you an extra turn later or something. this analogy isn't really perfect. anyway, that coverage is sorta iffy to me, especially once you use it the first time and your opponent knows it's in your set. but the switcheroos that ensue are lulzy either way.

also, if my opponent wants to trade snorlax for eggy i'm not sure i really want to try to convince them out of it? *shrug*

but leech seed is fun

[WaterWizard]

I love Leech Seed, and I use it on certain sets and with certain teams. It does well against Snorlax and Chansey for sure. Try it out!