Do you like Smogon?

[Crystal_]

Yep, I realised that a lot of people hate Smogon, but I don't know why. I like it, I think you can do a lot of stuff there although 90% of the things you'll see are abaut DPPt.

[Nerd]

A lot of smogon's analysises are pretty bad (specifically the RBY and GSC ones)... I guess that's partially because they're so outdated. A lot of the people that go there are pretty dumb, but that's true of any forum with a lot of members. On the other hand, if it weren't for them basically nobody would be playing pokemon right now.

I don't love it and I don't hate it... I don't really see how someone could hate something as trivial as a pokemon website.

[Crystal_]

lol nice posts. I needed to use a traductor to understand your post GGFan xD. I don't know much abaut the origin of Smogon, but I think it is a very universal site nowadays. Yep, the RBY analysis are very old, but the RSE ones are very good and I used it when I start plsying competitively, and them helped my a lot. Well, and the 99% of the Pokemon website don't have analysis. The main problem is that in Smogon the old gens are forgotten, but maybe as they will include old gens in the new version of shoddy... This is just because the 99'9999% of the players only play DP, andif they want more people in his forums, they should focus on DP.

" I only acknowledge the fact that a considerable portion of the competitive Pokemon community consists of immature children between the ages of 11 and 15. ". yeah, true, totally agree but this is inevitable. Definitely, they could create a mini-forum of competitive RB, GS and RS (and there will not be "immature children"), but for them it does not worth it.

[posthuman]

Smogon is a central hub for competitive Pokemon. It's important.

Unfortunately, they do not have up-to-date analyses on everything (like RBY). I understand why they focus on the most current generations, but they could put some time into the older games.

But that is the reason for this forum. Smogon has decided not to support the RBY community, so this forum is doing this instead. One could argue that this community is not large enough for Smogon's support, but it's obvious that IF Smogon suddenly decided to update their RBY analyses, more RBY players would pop up.

[Crystal_]

Yeah, we could invade Smogon admins with PMs that would say (WE WANT RBY, GSC and RSE) lol

[WaterWizard]

As a newcomer to competitive battling, Smogon's optical-friendly sorting of pokemon by stats, moves, etc was very helpful to me. Furthermore, the site itself is actually put together rather well.

However, some of the RBY & GSC analyses on Smogon are absolutely abysmal. I've had some of the mods edit a few of the pages (e.g. Cloyster), but I'd like to be able to edit them myself in the future. They need to have people who actually love and play the older generations take care of those databases. The current analyses can be expanded a great deal.

I also hate the arrogance and foolishness there. It is sad to me that people can get that way over a game about monsters...

So, anyway, I do like Smogon, to an extent. It's certainly more organized than the alternative...

[GGFan]

I don't see what was so disorganized about THE Alternative. Smogon didn't seem to have a problem looking at the analyses.

[WaterWizard]

well, I really meant all the alternatives collectively, not THE alternative, lol.

But if you look at a TA analysis next to a Smogon analysis, the latter is a little nicer and easier on the eyes. Having a sprite is always good, and the way the stats are displayed on Smogon is superior, in my opinion.

I'm not knocking THE alternative; it's a great example of how Smogon isn't THE only authority in Pokemon battling.

[GGFan]

Yeah, I know THE Alternative was never tech-savvy. Though, I think some people never realized that the analyses WERE posted in numeric order. I could have cleaned up the board a bit (gotten rid of the pointless forums) but it's never been active enough to make a difference. I did post some of the analyses on THE Alternative's website (www.freewebs.com/talternative), but again, activity was never significant enough for me to finish that little c/p project.

RBY2K10 holds the torch now.

[posthuman]

Oh cool, you have a website. I had no idea what you guys were talking about until you posted the link.

[subsmoke]

You guys should do your own pokemon pages since you think smogon's are outdated. You could make a website too, like maybe a free one or something.

Smogon's alright but I think they care too much about rules.

[posthuman]

Icy is planning to update his massive guide soon.
www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/file/367023/54432

[Underboss]

I think Smogon's a good site and it helped me out when I first started playing

[Dexter]

I dislike most of the userbase, but the articles and statistics they compile are pretty handy. Voted yes.

[Crystal_]

Just for you to know: Now in Smogon there is a tournament that consist in 12 teams (I think) with eight people per team. In this tournament they have to do diverse battles (RBY, GSC, RSE, DPPt), with one person per team especialized in one generation (an tier). Yeah, this is the first Smogon tournament (thing for that matter) that includes old gens!

[t3h Icy]

Yeah that's the Smogon Premier League. I had a topic up about getting some competition while the floodgates are open. Seems like it's on again.

[LolitaCute]

Their analyses are pretty helpful, the forums are pretty meh now and the R/B/Y section is dead, consisting of almost nothing but nostalgia and sprite topics. The SPL thing is pretty cool though.

[spies]

I'm playing RBY in the SPL

I think the old gens are gonna make a comeback... most of the active Smogon mods/admins that were around for them still like them more than DPP, but really with sites as big as those you just gotta give them what the majority of their username wants.

[gunbladelad]

In all honesty, I only ever post on the R/B/Y board, and maybe once or twice a year in the G/S/C section. My grand total of posts in the later generations is probably below 5.

The smogon R/B/Y analysis section is literally a collection of random people doing different Pokemon. I know I did a couple (I think it was Beedrill & a couple of other bug-types, but the beedrill analysis got heavily modified - only the first couple of paragraphs are mine. I know that my early nidoking moveset directly influenced the user who did Nidoking's. I'm not sure when my set became the Nidoking standard though.

[WaterWizard]

Smogon just wrecked their Ruins of Alph...

[gunbladelad]

You'll get no arguement from me there. It's actually a major factor in me coming here. (then again, I followed the link to here in the R/B/Y group community section)

If they'd combined Gen 1 & 2, then it would've been more bearable (and logical), but as it stands now, it's likely that R/B/Y/G/S/C specific posts'll get lost among the Gen 3 ones.

Ah well - time to fire up the GB & Blue...

[WaterWizard]

I just posted an add for this site and for NBS on Smogon. Fingers crossed that I'm not banned.

[t3h Icy]

I posted my guide there awhile ago and I got warned and my topic got hard deleted, etc.