Theoretical Tournament Question

[t3h Icy]

Player A vs Player B

Player A has a Pokemon with Fissure, but doesn't use it
Player B is losing a stall war and is forced to use Mimic and gets Fissure
Player B is then forced to use Fissure

Which player is DQ'd? A, B or neither?

I'd lean on either DQing Player A or neither. DQing Player B for being forced to a move that is not naturally on the Pokemon being used is unfair and this would also cause problems for anyone being quirky and using Metronome. I can't decide on A or neither. I can't imagine this situation coming up here if ever, but it's something to think about.

[LucasBM]

DQ player A! As all this mess would be his fault

[hipmonlee]

Its just as easy to define the rule as "your pokemon must not know move x" rather than "must not use move x".

[pocket]

Although, Player A had the right sense to not use a banned move throughout the match, if it is revealed that he did indeed have that move, then Player B has the right to call for Player A's disqualification.

However, since these matches are usually done in sets, this would only amount to a loss of a single match rather than the entire set, so it's not as devastating. Plus, Player B also has the capability to let it slide. Player B obviously wont be disqualified for using a move that Player A has supplied.

[Zilch]

What's the argument here? Mimic is legal, Fissure is not. Player A's disqualified.

[KiNGskruffi]

Player A should be dq'd, but player B actually should get a warning, since he used a banned move. Instead of using it, he should have ended the match and contacted a judge.

[t3h Icy]

Awesome thanks. Hipmonlee described it a lot better than me.

[WaterWizard]

I think if the rules are "You must not USE these moves" then Player B gets DQ'd (or must resign) since Player A was able to force him into that situation.

When the rules are "You must not HAVE these moves" then Play A obviously gets DQ'd.