RBY Tradebacks Move List

[t3h Icy]

Just as a quick read-me, I've compiled a list of all Tradeback moves in RBY. Feel free to discuss it here and if you notice something I missed or another error, just let me know.

Venusaur - Defense Curl, Flash, Headbutt, Light Screen, Petal Dance, Razor Wind, Rock Throw, Skull Bash

Charizard - Bite, Defense Curl, Fire Punch, Headbutt, Roar, Rock Slide, Smokescreen, Wing Attack

Blastoise - Confusion, Defense Curl, Haze, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Mist, Roar, Waterfall

Pidgeot - Tackle

Raticate - Bite, Counter, Cut, Defense Curl, Fury Swipes, Headbutt, Roar, Screech, Strength

Fearow - Quick-Attack, Sonicboom, Tri Attack

Arbok - Haze, Headbutt, Slam

Raichu - Defense Curl, Dizzy Punch, Doubleslap, Headbutt, Petal Dance, Sing, Thunderpunch

Sandslash - Counter, Defense Curl, Headbutt

Nidoqueen - Defense Curl, Disable, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Focus Energy, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Lovely Kiss, Roar, Supersonic, Thunderpunch

Nidoking - Amnesia, Confusion, Defense Curl, Disable, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Lovely Kiss, Roar, Supersonic, Thunderpunch

Clefable - Amnesia, Dizzy Punch, Dream Eater, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Petal Dance, Splash, Swift, Thunderpunch

Ninetales - Disable, Headbutt, Hypnosis

Wigglytuff - Dizzy Punch, Dream Eater, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Petal Dance, Thunderpunch

Golbat - Gust, Quick-Attack

Vileplume - Flash, Leech Seed, Razor Leaf

Parasect - Counter, Flash, Light Screen, Poisonpowder, Psybeam, Screech

Venomoth - Gust, Screech

Dugtrio - Screech, Tri Attack

Persian - Amnesia, Defense Curl, Dream Eater, Headbutt, Hypnosis, Roar

Golduck - Flash, Headbutt, Hypnosis, Ice Punch, Light Screen, Petal Dance, Psybeam, Psychic, Screech, Tri Attack, Waterfall

Primeape - Defense Curl, Fire Punch, Heabutt, Ice Punch, Meditate, Thunderpunch

Arcanine - Fire Spin, Headbutt, Thrash

Poliwrath - Defense Curl, Growth, Haze, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Lovely Kiss, Mist, Splash, Waterfall

Alakazam - Barrier, Dream Eater, Fire Punch, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Light Screen, Thunderpunch

Machamp - Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Light Screen, Meditate, Rolling Kick, Thrash, Thunderpunch

Victreebel - Flash, Leech Life, Lovely Kiss

Tentacruel - Aurora Beam, Confuse Ray, Haze

Golem - Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Roar

Rapidash - Double Kick, Flamethrower, Fury Attack, Headbutt, Hypnosis, Low Kick, Quick-Attack, Tackle, Thrash

Slowbro - Dream Eater, Flamethrower, Ice Punch, Stomp, Tackle

Magneton - Agility, Tri Attack

Farfetch'd - Gust, Headbutt, Mirror Move, Quick-Attack

Dodrio - Haze, Low Kick, Quick-Attack, Supersonic, Swift

Dewgong - Disable, Lick, Peck, Slam, Waterfall

Muk - Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Haze, Ice Punch, Lick, Thunderpunch

Cloyster - Barrier, Screech

Gengar - Fire Punch, Haze, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch

Onix - Headbutt, Roar, Sharpen

Hypno - Amnesia, Barrier, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Light Screen, Thunderpunch

Kingler - Amnesia, Dig, Haze, Slam

Electrode - Agility, Headbutt

Exeggutor - Confusion, Dream Eater, Flash, Headbutt

Marowak - Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Fury Attack, Rock Slide, Screech, Swords Dance, Thunderpunch

Hitmonlee - Dizzy Punch, Headbutt, Tackle

Hitmonchan - Dizzy Punch, Headbutt, Hi Jump Kick, Tackle

Lickitung - Doubleslap, Dream Eater, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Lick, Thunderpunch

Weezing - Flamethrower, Poison Gas, Psybeam, Psywave, Screech

Rhydon - Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Roar, Thrash, Thunderpunch

Chansey - Dream Eater, Flamethrower, Headbutt

Tangela - Amnesia, Confusion, Flash, Headbutt, Reflect

Kangaskhan - Disable, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Focus Energy, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Roar, Stomp, Thunderpunch

Seadra - Aurora Beam, Disable, Dragon Rage, Haze, Headbutt, Splash, Waterfall

Seaking - Haze, Hydro Pump, Psybeam, Swords Dance

Starmie - Confuse Ray, Dream Eater, Waterfall

Mr.Mime - Dream Eater, Fire Punch, Headbutt, Hypnosis, Ice Punch, Psybeam, Thunderpunch

Scyther - Counter, Headbutt, Light Screen, Razor Wind, Sonicboom

Jynx - Confusion, Dizzy Punch, Dream Eater, Headbutt, Meditate, Petal Dance, Sing

Electabuzz - Barrier, Dizzy Punch, Fire Punch, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Karate Chop, Meditate, Rolling Kick

Magmar - Barrier, Dizzy Punch, Headbutt, Karate Chop, Screech, Thunderpunch

Pinsir - Fury Attack, Headbutt, Rock Throw

Tauros - Flamethrower, Headbutt, Horn Attack, Quick Attack, Surf, Thrash

Gyarados - Bubble, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Roar, Thrash, Waterfall

Lapras - Aurora Beam, Bite, Dream Eater, Headbutt

Vaporeon - Growth, Headbutt, Roar

Jolteon - Growth, Headbutt, Roar

Flareon - Growth, Headbutt, Roar

Porygon - Barrier, Dream Eater

Omastar - Aurora Beam, Bite, Constrict, Haze, Headbutt, Rock Throw, Slam, Supersonic

Kabutops - Aurora Beam, Dig, Headbutt, Mega Drain, Rock Throw, Sand-Attack

Aerodactyl - Earthquake, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Roar, Rock Throw

Snorlax - Defense Curl, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Ice Punch, Lick, Lovely Kiss, Splash, Tackle, Thunderpunch

Articuno - Gust, Roar

Zapdos - Peck, Roar

Moltres - Ember, Flamethrower, Roar, Wing Attack

Dragonite - Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Fly, Haze, Headbutt, Hydro Pump, Ice Punch, Light Screen, Mist, Supersonic, Thunderpunch, Waterfall, Wing Attack

Mewtwo - Dream Eater, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch

Mew - Defense Curl, Fire Punch, Flamethrower, Headbutt, Ice Punch Roar, Thunderpunch, Waterfall

[Underboss]

Oh yes, Alakazam with elemental punches!!! Ice Punch or Thunder Punch, you don't know which till punch comes muhahaha!

[Underboss]

Oooooh Aerodactyl with Earthquake should be fun

[posthuman]

I don't think so. Try using it and watch how quickly it still dies.

[Zilch]

Oh boy, just what I've always wanted! Tackle Pidgeot!

Amnesia Hypno certainly is interesting, though.

[posthuman]

It's very powerful.

[Tristan]

Growth Vaporeon destroys btw

[posthuman]

Why?

[Underboss]

haha Electrode has agility, like he needs to be faster

[Underboss]

Ooooh Persian with Amnesia and Hypnosis, interesting...
Maybe Persian can finally do something to Gengar

In fact, that makes her a faster sleeper than Gengar, maybe Persian will become a lead sleeper of sorts.

[Tristan]

May 26, 2010 15:23:31 GMT -8 posthuman said:

Why?

Growth
Rest
then Surf/IB away the competition

Just watch out for Razor Leaf

[Underboss]

That seems like it would be hard to set up

[Tristan]

It's my GSC secret weapon, works better for me than curselax. I'm not completely sure how it fairs in RBY tradeback

[posthuman]

It's like Growth Jolteon. It seems like it would be harder to set up because of the low Speed, but it's possible.

[mattman324]

Magmar and Electabuzz with the a few elemental punches look like interesting options for lower tiers.

Flamethrower is a side option for Slowbro.

Zam with the punches is a BIT much, maybe.

Clefable and Hypno both love Amnesia.

But the two best pokemon (better than Mewtwo?) are Golbat and Farfetch'd. All they needed to break RBY was Quick attack, and there they go. We might want to hide from these threats. /sarcasm.

[Zilch]

I dunno, I still think Tackle Pidgeot will rock RBY's world. It's so unexpected that it's perfect!

[WaterWizard]

Has Quick Attack Dodrio been used at all in the tournament yet? I think it has some potential. Does pretty decent damage to Alakazam and Chansey.

[t3h Icy]

40 Base Power doesn't get far, but it's an interesting 4th move if you hate Agility/Reflect. I can't imagine it turning the tide in a game though, unless a match-up comes down to the wire.

[Supreme Dirt]

Christ.

I've been working on a guide for Smogon on this, ya mind if I use this?

[t3h Icy]

Go right ahead.

[WaterWizard]

haha that's one of the reasons I invited Supreme Dirt. I knew he'd go nuts over the Trade Backs list. Saves him a bunch of time! He'll be inviting a few other Smoginites, too. I think this summer will be a good season for RBY.

[Isa]

Remind me to make a Tradebacks PO mod during September

[Agent Syrup]

So would this bump any Pokemon to the OU tier?

[Crystal_]

Hypno and Clefable

[Isa]

Nidoking with Amnesia and Lovely Kiss seems like a threat to me.

[Isa]

Alakazam with Barrier and elemental punches is absurd though.

Persian with Hypnosis is weird but probably devastating should it hit. Gengar gets the indirect nerfstick.

Setting up Hypno with Amnesia+Rest+Hypnosis+Psychic could destroy Zam/Starmie-less teams in the blink of an eye. Maybe you can even skip Rest for Barrier.

[Agent Syrup]

I really like Amnesia Tangela. Think he would be good for taking care of bulky Water types?

[Isa]

Amnesia Tangela crossed my mind too, but...he just doesn't have any damaging moves. Mega Drain? Solarbeam? Amnesia is almost solely defensive on him, since Mega Drain is just too weak. Had he maybe had any decent Special moves, he could make better use of it, but...

[t3h Icy]

Surf Tauros is beast, but can't OHKO Golem/Rhydon

Tackle Pidgeot is BL.

Alakazam is actually versatile.

Exeggutor kind of bites due to all the improvements around him. Still definitely OU.

Hypnosis Persian is nice as a lead, but is still walled by Gengar, who happens to love Ice Punch and is improved.

Confuse Ray Starmie is nice with Thunder Wave.

Hypno is superb. However, Barrier and Amnesia can't co-exist.

Dig is pretty nice on Kingler, assuming he's used late-game.

The Growtheons, in particular Jolteon are powerful.

Nidoking with Lovely Kiss is an interesting Sleeper being able to hybrid sweep after.

Victreebel with Lovely Kiss makes it 20x better.

Golduck has a ton of neat moves, but many can't co-exist with Amnesia.

Raichu with Sing is the only Electric Sleeper, and also gains Petal Dance for some reason.

Vileplume with Razor Leaf is still terrible.

Cloyster with Barrier combined with Reflect helps him overflow his Defense.

Electrode with Agility helps his otherwise lacking Speed.

Dream Eater on various pokes can help force switching out after putting an opponent to Sleep. It also messes with stallers using Rest.

Aerodactyl with Earthquake means he now has a movepool.

And OH DEAR GOD Lovely Kiss Snorlax is on basically every team.

[WaterWizard]

I'm confused about your comments on Pidgeot and Electrode.